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Re: Questions about microsoft tests (3nd version)

From: Gérard Talbot <css21testsuite@gtalbot.org>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:22:08 -0800
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To: "public-css-testsuite@w3.org" <public-css-testsuite@w3.org>
Cc: "Bruno Fassino" <fassino@gmail.com>, "Arron Eicholz" <Arron.Eicholz@microsoft.com>

> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Arron Eicholz
> <Arron.Eicholz@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> Robert Stam wrote
>>
>>> 4) ---------
>>> chapter_9\inline-formatting-context-017.xht


http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Test/CSS2.1/20100127/html4/inline-formatting-context-017.htm

http://test.csswg.org/source/contributors/microsoft/submitted/Chapter_9/inline-formatting-context-017.xht


>>> Test expects the text to fit on two lines where the first line is
>>> justified.
>>
>> I see no issue here. The test always has two lines of text. If you are
>> zoomed or text size is increased then you violate the rules for
>> running the test suite cases. Those guidelines state you have the
>> browser defaults.
>
>
> I see more than two lines, even at default configuration (text size
> 16px), in Firefox on a Linux machine. It depends on the default font.
> The same applies to inline-formatting-context-020 (I see three lines,
> not two, even at browser defaults).


http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Test/CSS2.1/20100127/html4/inline-formatting-context-020.htm

http://test.csswg.org/source/contributors/microsoft/submitted/Chapter_9/inline-formatting-context-020.xht


Same thing here. I see more than two lines with default configuration
with Firefox 3.5.7, Opera 10.10 and Konqueror 4.3.5 all under Linux KDE,
all with browser defaults. The default font have an impact here.

Please note that in test
http://test.csswg.org/source/contributors/microsoft/submitted/Chapter_9/inline-formatting-context-017.xht
there is potentially 2 additional difficulties.

{
<meta name="flags" content="may" />

<meta content="If 'text-align' is set to 'justify' the user agent may
stretch spaces and/or words." name="assert">

Test passes if the width of spaces and/or characters of the first line
of "Filler Text" is larger than the second line of "Filler Text".
}

1-
What if such difference is as small as 2 (or 3 or 4) pixels? How is "Joe
Schmuck" going to see/notice such width difference in blank spaces
and/or in between characters?

2-
What if there is no difference of width? The user agent could then still
pass the test but the statement (expected result) suggests otherwise.

regards, Gérard
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