Re: Naming EDVs for all (Was: Re: [MINUTES] W3C Credentials CG Call - 2020-01-21 12pm ET

IndiaStack uses Digilocker. It’s in the context of other identity-linked
services.
https://www.indiastack.org

I have tried to steer them in the direction of standards, so far without
much success.

Adrian

On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:08 AM Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
wrote:

> Hello,
> In the discussion of the Jan 21 CCG call, the section quoted at the end of
> this email shows to me that there's a general name discussion required
> around EDVs (Encrypted Data Vaults). "Wallet" is rejected because it has
> other uses. There's no consensus yet.
>
> I believe this is like what happened around "Digital Identifiers", where
> the whole CCG list got involved, because, as Dave Longley notes at the end
> of the quote, the naming needs to satisfy the general public as well as
> developers and codewriters.
>
> And I began to think up some possibilities for "safe storage" that already
> exist in the physical world, perhaps to get the ball rolling in such a
> discussion. These are:
>
> Safe     [banks, homes]
> Safe Drop   [couriers]
> Safety Deposit Box    [banks]
> Deposit Box  [banks, post office]
> Lockbox   [real estate, travel]
> Storage    [rental lockers, computer storage]
> Strongbox   [rental lockers, banks, homes]
> Secure Sockets   [HTTPS, SSL]
> Trunk   [travel luggage]
> Suitcase   [travel luggage]
> Container    [shipping trade]
>
> I believe both "safe" and "mobile" need to be implied, and I'm unsure
> whether the word "data" is best used or not. So at this point my own
> preferences would be combinations like:
> Data Lockbox
> Safe Box
> Data Safe
>
> etc.
>
> Other opinions?
>
>
> On 2020-01-29 8:19 pm, W3C CCG Chairs wrote:
> > Manu Sporny: ...We, as an organization, want
> >    to focus on portability, CHAPI, moving wallets, etc. simpler use
> >    cases. [scribe assist by Dave Longley]
> > Joe Andrieu:  I put myself on the queue - to push back on
> >    language around wallet vs. vault that Manu used. Naming is hard,
> >    attempting to be constructive.
> > Orie Steele: "Wallet" is a terrible name :( ... names are hard...
> > Drummond Reed: The DIF Glossary Project is drilling deep into
> >    community definitions of "wallet", "agent", and "credential".
> >    It's amazing how diverse some of the responses are.
> > Joe Andrieu:  ChristopherA and I wrote a topic for the last
> >    rebooting - spoke about how "Identity Wallets" and "Crypto
> >    Wallets" have similarities, trying to find similarities
> >    architecturally. Crypto wallets are not in your hardware
> >    wallet... a wallet is how you control access to your stuff, not
> >    the actual store that has it. A good crypto wallet could have
> >    Bitcoin, Ethereum, AltCoins, but the way that tech works is that
> >    the important stuff is not in the wallets.
> > Adrian Gropper: +1 To Joe's and Drummond's comments on "wallet"
> > Stephen Curran: "Wallet" in mainstream usage is the app you have
> >    on your phone. It's not the bit of the any "thingy" (agent,
> >    whatever) that stores things. Using that term is fighting a
> >    losing battle.
> > Joe Andrieu:  The interfaces that we use to get access to stores
> >    vs the stores themselves are important. We also need a good
> >    separation between those so we can move EDVs around w/o changing
> >    front-end wallet.
> > Dave Longley: There's probably also a naming issue here where the
> >    general public will understand "wallet" as all of the layers, but
> >    developers/technologists should understand there are more layers
>
>
> Steven Rowat
>
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