Re: Materials from 2019-07-02 DID Working Group Charter meeting

Yes Kim,

This would be a great opportunity for me if I could help you anyhow and get
a chance to work under the leadership of you hardworking people. :)

Regards
Sethi Shivam

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 13:59, Kim Hamilton <kimdhamilton@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks so much Sethi, that's wonderful! I'm not sure if you were asking
> about this task specifically, but in case you are (and also, Carlos, in
> response to your question):
>
> The best way to get exposed to the minute publishing process is here:
> https://w3c-ccg.github.io/publish.html. The video in that page (
> https://youtu.be/0Sn7co2eSCo) gives an overview of how everything works.
>
> Manu spent a lot of effort building this codebase that does the irc log ->
> html conversion, minute posting, etc. Then a handful of others of us spent
> effort updating for different functionality, adding utilities,
> documentation, and readmes, so the code/docs should be more explanatory
> than ever before.
>
> Warning: any knowledge of these tools is currently based on self-driven
> digging, nagging Manu, and artifacts we generated based on that (like the
> link/tutorial above). It's possible only ~5 people know how these work
> (even partially). However, understanding those tools is incredibly valuable
> for the community. It allows us to respond to requests like this in a
> scalable way.
>
> Because of the importance of understanding these tools, I could definitely
> commit a future CCG call to a knowledge transfer session. In general, I'd
> love to have a dedicated call to discuss volunteer opportunities. So Sethi,
> if this particular one doesn't match your skill set, we could discuss other
> opportunities on a call (with minutes posted subsequently for those who
> can't attend but would also like to volunteer).
>
> On the topic of volunteers...I'll use this as an opportunity to
> acknowledge some recent heavy lifter volunteers who make our work succeed.
> We all take for granted the usual heavy lifters like Manu, Markus,
> Drummond, Brent, Ken, Dan Burnett, and TallTed. But witnessing their
> perseverance through intricate work, like the DID specification and
> charter, all the while dodging (nearly literal) knife throwing, is
> inspiring.
>
> I know many of us think of them as possessing unique, arcane knowledge,
> and yeah that's sort of true, but they do this by digging in, figuring out
> what needs figuring out, and collaborating with other volunteers in this
> community. We could not thrive as a community group without this sort of
> involvement, and it's critical to our ongoing success. Not only is it
> important to ensure our work represents a broad group of interests, it
> helps avoid burnout of a few over-taxed individuals.
>
> So I want to also thank Sethi for stepping up now, with willingness to
> commit to helping in whatever way he can. And also huge thanks to Bill
> Barnhill, a recent volunteer who has  thrown himself into the spectext
> research and prototypes. His work specifically opens up our processes to an
> ever broader range of people (i.e. making conversion to spectext easy for
> non-tech folks). I can't emphasize enough how impactful this is.
>
> Lastly, to everyone in the community -- many of these tasks may appear to
> be a menial task, lacking in glory. And yeah, we do a lot of boring, unpaid
> tasks* to keep the wheels running. But keeping our community goals in mind,
> any effort helps further our important work. So chip in wherever you can.
>
> Even if that's scribing. I note that we had no volunteers again today, and
> had to revert to the list of people who always do it (sorry Manu).
> Volunteer to scribe. And if you don't know how, then sit back and enjoy a
> fantastic video tutorial another valuable volunteer (Andrew Hughes) has
> made. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sn7co2eSCo&t=1s
>
> * The hard work we do here may not make you an "Identity Influencer", but
> it will allow you to _influence_ the future of self-sovereign identity. :)
>
> Your chair,
> Kim
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 12:32 AM sethi shivam <sethishivam27@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kim ,
>>
>> Is there any possibility that I can work as a Volunteer. Currently, i am
>> working on the development of a product that will offer DID services.
>> And I am very much interested in DID and related work.
>>
>> Regards
>> Sethi Shivam
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 12:50, Kim Hamilton <kimdhamilton@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for volunteering Carlos! And thanks Manu for extending the
>>> request for volunteers before I could. This is a community-driven effort,
>>> so it's great to have new folks stepping in to help.
>>>
>>> Let us know if you have any questions about getting started, Carlos.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 12:11 AM Carlos Bruguera <cbruguera@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 on converting the logs to web readable format. 🙏
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 12:02 PM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/9/19 5:07 PM, Markus Sabadello wrote:
>>>>> > The meeting notes and recording are not in Google doc, but in
>>>>> > Github:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> https://github.com/w3c-ccg/meetings/tree/gh-pages/2019-07-02-did-wg-charter
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> You can see that there's a ".log" file and a ".mp4" file in the
>>>>> > repository.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, but that requires a bit of insider knowledge to understand... and
>>>>> I expect that many don't click through.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the more recent meetings we have logs, yes... wondering if we can
>>>>> pull some of the older meetings from Google Docs into some
>>>>> publicly-readable format... there were a few in the beginning that
>>>>> didn't make it over to .logs.
>>>>>
>>>>> We should probably also convert these .log files into our standard
>>>>> Web/email readable format here:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2019-06-25/
>>>>>
>>>>> and post them to the mailing list as we do for our regular calls:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-credentials/2019Jun/0044.html
>>>>>
>>>>> ... and I say this knowing full well it's more work to do that and
>>>>> we're
>>>>> all really pressed for time. Publishing .log files is the bare minimum
>>>>> that we need to protect ourselves from future IPR concerns (and it's
>>>>> good CG hygiene to publish in a way that is accessible to all --
>>>>> including those behind a firewall and those using screen readers -- the
>>>>> log files are pretty terrible for that).
>>>>>
>>>>> The good news is that we have the raw source files (.log and .mp4) to
>>>>> go
>>>>> back and generate the minutes retroactively... now all we need is a
>>>>> volunteer to do that. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> So... any volunteers want to learn how to publish the groups minutes so
>>>>> we can start doing that for Task Forces? It will only hurt a little
>>>>> bit,
>>>>> I promise. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> -- manu
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny)
>>>>> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
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>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/veres-one-launches
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>