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Re: DID Use Case materials for tomorrow

From: Joe Andrieu <joe@legreq.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 02:37:11 -0500
Thanks, Drummond.

Sorry you won't be able to make it. If you have any thoughts, feel free to email me or the list.

I have a few more bits of content I'd like to get into the doc before we go out for charter vote, but getting consensus around those 15 features will be a good foundation for that work.

-j

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019, at 11:22 PM, =Drummond Reed wrote:
> Joe et al,
> 
> First, *great job* on improving the Use Cases doc so rapidly (on top of the fine work of Amy, Kim, Ryan, Adrian, etc.).
> 
> I would love to be on the discussion but it overlaps directly with the talk that Marie Wieck, General Manager of IBM Blockchain, is giving at IBM Think in San Francisco tomorrow morning. I'm on a Blockchain and Identity panel shortly after that (talking about—guess what—DIDs and VCs), and I've been told I must hear Marie's talk first, so I won't be able to be on the call. 
> 
> But I am confident that with a full group focus on these 5 use cases and 15 features, you all can drive it home.
> 
> I will, BTW, see everyone going to Rebooting the Web of Trust (and the W3C Verifiable Claims Working Group meeting); I just booked my ticket today.
> 
> Best,
> 
> =Drummond 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:54 PM Joe Andrieu <joe@legreq.com> wrote:
>> The link is at the top:
>> https://w3c-ccg.github.io/did-use-cases/ 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Stephen Curran <swcurran@cloudcompass.ca>
>> Date: 2/11/19 3:07 PM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: Joe Andrieu <joe@joeandrieu.com>
>> Cc: Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
>> Subject: Re: DID Use Case materials for tomorrow
>> 
>> Hi Joe,
>> 
>> Where can the document be seen in a readable form? It would be great if a link could be added to the Readme. I'm guessing that the list of 15 key features is in the doc, but if not, it would be good to have a link to that as well.
>> 
>> __
>> *Stephen Curran*
>> Principal, Cloud Compass Computing, Inc.
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>> On Feb 11 2019, at 2:35 pm, Joe Andrieu <joe@joeandrieu.com> wrote:
>>> Howdy folks,
>>> 
>>> On tomorrow's CCG call, we'll be looking at the latest version of the DID Use Cases, and in particular, the distilled list of features from our recent conversations.
>>> 
>>> I've updated the github/ReSpec version that Manu and Amy created over the weekend. This is where we'll focus our attention tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/w3c-ccg/did-use-cases
>>> 
>>> Four out of five of those use cases are solid. I have a candidate I might add, based on the DID Explainer contribution from Sam, and I'll likely remove one to keep the total number to five.
>>> 
>>> The immediate task for tomorrow (Tuesday) is feedback on the features list that starts off the use case document. One thing we found in the VC use case work was the importance of communicating which use cases covered which requirements. To help with the DID Use Cases, I identified *15 key features* that have come up in our DID value proposition discussions at the end of the year and the DID Explainer work Dan and I have done, and then I showed, in a grid, which features are explicitly mentioned in each use case.
>>> 
>>> You can see right away that two of the features are not mentioned in any of the use cases (as of my writing this email).
>>> 
>>> These *15 features* are the first distillation of multiple group discussions over several months, so while there is some consensus around the general idea for most of these, this is the first time these 15 feature have been presented in writing as a set of use case driven requirements. Those are almost certainly not the "perfect" 15 features and they can definitely use improvements in terminology and definition. Feedback desired.
>>> 
>>> Please take a look and be prepared to improve that list of *15 features* tomorrow, Tuesday.
>>> 
>>> -j
>>> 
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<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div style="font-family:Arial;">Thanks, Drummond.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">Sorry you won't be able to make it. If you have any thoughts, feel free to email me or the list.</div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">I have a few more bits of content I'd like to get into the doc before we go out for charter vote, but getting consensus around those 15 features will be a good foundation for that work.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">-j</div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">On Mon, Feb 11, 2019, at 11:22 PM, =Drummond Reed wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="fastmail-quoted"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:Arial;">Joe et al,<br></div><div><br></div><div>First, <b>great job</b>&nbsp;on improving the Use Cases doc so rapidly (on top of the fine work of Amy, Kim, Ryan, Adrian, etc.).<br></div><div><br></div><div>I would love to be on the discussion but it overlaps directly with the talk that Marie Wieck, General Manager of IBM&nbsp;Blockchain, is giving at&nbsp;IBM Think in&nbsp;San Francisco tomorrow morning. I'm on a Blockchain and Identity panel shortly after that (talking about—guess what—DIDs and VCs), and I've been told I must hear Marie's talk first, so I won't be able to be on the call.&nbsp;<br></div><div><br></div><div>But I am confident that with a full group focus on these 5 use cases and 15 features, you all can drive it home.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I will, BTW, see everyone going to&nbsp;Rebooting the Web of Trust (and the&nbsp;W3C Verifiable Claims Working Group meeting); I just booked my ticket today.<br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Best,<br></div><div><br></div><div>=Drummond&nbsp;&nbsp;<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div class="fastmail-quoted-gmail_quote"><div class="fastmail-quoted-gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:54 PM Joe Andrieu &lt;<a href="mailto:joe@legreq.com">joe@legreq.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;" class="fastmail-quoted-gmail_quote"><div><div>The link is at the top:<br></div><div><a href="https://w3c-ccg.github.io/did-use-cases/">https://w3c-ccg.github.io/did-use-cases/</a>&nbsp;<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="fastmail-quoted-gmail-m_6320463190512030937composer_signature"><div dir="auto" style="font-size:85%;color:rgb(87, 87, 87);">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div>-------- Original message --------<br></div><div>From: Stephen Curran &lt;<a href="mailto:swcurran@cloudcompass.ca">swcurran@cloudcompass.ca</a>&gt;<br></div><div>Date: 2/11/19  3:07 PM  (GMT-08:00)<br></div><div>To: Joe Andrieu &lt;<a href="mailto:joe@joeandrieu.com">joe@joeandrieu.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div>Cc: Credentials Community Group &lt;<a href="mailto:public-credentials@w3.org">public-credentials@w3.org</a>&gt;<br></div><div>Subject: Re: DID Use Case materials for tomorrow<br></div><div><br></div></div><div>Hi Joe,<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div>Where can the document be seen in a readable form?&nbsp; It would be great if a link could be added to the Readme.&nbsp; I'm guessing that the list of 15 key features is in the doc, but if not, it would be good to have a link to that as well.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><u></u><br></div><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td><div><b>Stephen Curran</b><br></div><div style="border-top-width:2px;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:gray;padding-top:3px;margin-top:3px;">Principal, Cloud Compass Computing, Inc.<br></div><div style="font-size:0.9em;min-width:250px;max-width:300px;margin-top:4px;padding-top:4px;"><div><div><span style="margin-right:8px;"><span>P // </span><a href="tel:250-857-1096">250-857-1096</a></span><br></div><div><span>W // </span><a href="https://www.cloudcompass.ca">https://www.cloudcompass.ca</a><br></div><div><a style="margin-right:8px;" title="Twitter" href="https://twitter.com/scurranC3I"><img id="fastmail-quoted-gmail-m_63204631905120309371549928917891" alt="Twitter" height="13" width="13" src="https://www.getmailspring.com/signature-assets/twitter.gif"></a><br></div></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="font-family:Arial;"><u></u><br></div></div><div class="fastmail-quoted-gmail-m_6320463190512030937gmail_quote_attribution">On Feb 11 2019, at 2:35 pm, Joe Andrieu &lt;<a href="mailto:joe@joeandrieu.com">joe@joeandrieu.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div><div><div><span>Howdy folks,</span><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><span>On tomorrow's CCG call, we'll be looking at the latest version of the DID Use Cases, and in particular, the distilled list of features from our recent conversations.</span><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><span style="color:rgb(31, 31, 31)" class="colour"><span>I've updated the github/ReSpec version that Manu and Amy created over the weekend. This is where we'll focus our attention tomorrow.</span></span><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><span style="color:rgb(31, 31, 31)" class="colour"><span><span style="color:rgb(22, 108, 197)" class="colour"><a title="https://github.com/w3c-ccg/did-use-cases" href="https://github.com/w3c-ccg/did-use-cases">https://github.com/w3c-ccg/did-use-cases</a></span></span></span><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><span style="color:rgb(31, 31, 31)" class="colour"><span>Four out of five of those use cases are solid. I have a candidate I might add, based on the DID Explainer contribution from Sam, and I'll likely remove one to keep the total number to five.</span></span><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><span style="color:rgb(31, 31, 31)" class="colour"><span>The immediate task for tomorrow (Tuesday) is feedback on the features list that starts off the use case document. One thing we found in the VC use case work was the importance of communicating which use cases covered which requirements.&nbsp; To help with the DID Use Cases, I identified&nbsp;</span></span><span style="color:rgb(31, 31, 31)" class="colour"><span><b>15 key features</b></span></span><span style="color:rgb(31, 31, 31)" class="colour"><span>&nbsp;that have come up in our DID value proposition discussions at the end of the year and the DID Explainer work Dan and I have done, and then I showed, in a grid, which features are explicitly mentioned in each use case.</span></span><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><span style="color:rgb(31, 31, 31)" class="colour"><span>You can see right away that two of the features are not mentioned in any of the use cases (as of my writing this email).</span></span><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><span style="color:rgb(31, 31, 31)" class="colour"><span>These&nbsp;</span></span><span style="color:rgb(31, 31, 31)" class="colour"><span><b>15 features</b></span></span><span style="color:rgb(31, 31, 31)" class="colour"><span>&nbsp;are the first distillation of multiple group discussions over several months, so while there is some consensus around the general idea for most of these, this is the first time these 15 feature have been presented in writing as a set of use case driven requirements. Those are almost certainly not the "perfect" 15 features and they can definitely use improvements in terminology and definition. Feedback desired.</span></span><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><span style="color:rgb(31, 31, 31)" class="colour"><span>Please take a look and be prepared to improve that list of&nbsp;</span></span><span style="color:rgb(31, 31, 31)" class="colour"><span><b>15 features</b></span></span><span style="color:rgb(31, 31, 31)" class="colour"><span>&nbsp;tomorrow, Tuesday.</span></span><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><span style="color:rgb(31, 31, 31)" class="colour"><span>-j</span></span><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div class="fastmail-quoted-gmail-m_6320463190512030937signature"><div>--<br></div></div><div class="fastmail-quoted-gmail-m_6320463190512030937signature"><div>Joe Andrieu, PMP<br></div></div><div class="fastmail-quoted-gmail-m_6320463190512030937signature"><div><a title="mailto:joe@joeandrieu.com" href="mailto:joe@joeandrieu.com">joe@joeandrieu.com</a><br></div></div><div class="fastmail-quoted-gmail-m_6320463190512030937signature"><div>+1(805)705-8651<br></div></div><div class="fastmail-quoted-gmail-m_6320463190512030937signature"><div><a href="http://blog.joeandrieu.com">http://blog.joeandrieu.com</a><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div id="sig66177896"><div class="signature">--<br></div><div class="signature">Joe Andrieu, PMP &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="mailto:joe@legreq.com">joe@legreq.com</a><br></div><div class="signature"><div><div>LEGENDARY REQUIREMENTS &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;+1(805)705-8651<br></div></div><div>Do what matters. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="http://www.legendaryrequirements.com">http://legreq.com</a><br></div></div><div class="signature"><br></div></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div></body></html>
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