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Re: Need to fix DID Use Cases ASAP

From: =Drummond Reed <drummond.reed@evernym.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:31:45 -0800
Message-ID: <CAAjunnbCrW2324KD74bajt7h7V1AWAVrhbbpOoWJuUJujQLbkA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
Cc: W3C Credentials CG <public-credentials@w3.org>
Manu, thanks for getting the word out on this. I just looked over the
ReSpec doc that you linked to <https://w3c-ccg.github.io/did-use-cases/>
and it actually looks pretty good (though I didn't read it closely).

It sounds like an unintended snafu that we just need to fix as quickly as
we can. Given Joe "Legendary Requirements" Andrieu's expertise in this area
(which truly is legendary), what's the fastest path to just upgrading the
content in https://w3c-ccg.github.io/did-use-cases/ ?

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 11:40 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The DID WG draft charter started circulation with the W3C Advisory
> Committee as an "advance notice" last Thursday[1]. The feedback I've
> been getting from W3C Advisory Committee Members that have seen the
> document for the first time is very negative due to the current state of
> the Use Cases Document[2]. Some feedback includes the following statements:
>
> "This is possibly the worst use cases document that I've read as a part
> of an AC Review. If this is the state of the use cases, I can't imagine
> that the state of the specification is much better. I'm not voting for
> this charter -- will object to it instead -- the use cases alone show
> it's not ready."
>
> "I couldn't make it through the charter. I hit the use case written by a
> male, depicting an image of a scantily clad woman and what it is like to
> be a woman in a dance club. Looks like the group is detached from
> reality if they think DIDs are going to solve that problem."
>
> "What's the official status of the use case doc that's linked from the
> draft charter? It's not done, right..? ... because there's some.. really
> not good stuff in there. I'm just worried about the harm it might do to
> more than just the work, but the group... remove the unnecessary picture
> of a dancing lady.."
>
> "... has possibly one to two use cases that I can use to show upper
> management to convince them to participate... the rest are going to
> result in eye rolling."
>
> "I read some of the use cases document, but I didn't see any that
> actually justified this work. A proper use case should tell a story of a
> problem being solved by DIDs that isn't reasonably solved without them.
> The ones I read were not doing that at all. They were fairly vague,
> talking about some problem around identity or decentralization, and
> suggesting that somehow DIDs would help."
>
> The W3C Advisory Committee was never supposed to see that working
> document (or rather, that document was supposed to be cleaned up by this
> point, but it's not).
>
> What they expect to see at this point is a finalized use cases document,
> preferably in ReSpec format.
>
> I've been trying to do damage control, underscoring that the group does
> have solid use cases and we're behind in getting that document up to
> snuff. Amy and I tried to take some of the use cases and filled out the
> ReSpec Use Cases document[3] that has been blank since May of last year.
> The Charter has been temporarily redirected[4] to that document (instead
> of the one that the AC was never supposed to see):
>
> https://w3c-ccg.github.io/did-use-cases/
>
> This is only meant as a stop-gap solution, should be replaced with the
> correct text that is being worked on by Joe/Christopher/Matt/Dan when it
> becomes available.
>
> The challenge here is that the AC is currently reviewing the documents
> RIGHT NOW and this is creating a very negative first impression. We need
> to fix this problem ASAP.
>
> CCG Chairs, this is a request to have some time on the call this week to
> discuss?
>
> -- manu
>
> [1]
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-credentials/2019Feb/0003.html
> [2]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wz8sakevXzO2OSMP341w7M2LjAMZfEQaTQEm_AOs3_Q/edit
> [3]https://github.com/w3c-ccg/did-use-cases/commits/master
> [4]
> https://github.com/w3c-ccg/did-wg-charter/commit/d3a2ae0856f23a354047dc840d3d180ef84f03a5
>
> --
> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny)
> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
> blog: Veres One Decentralized Identifier Blockchain Launches
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>
>
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