Re: Collaborate on a concept map for DIDs based on DID Primer

Hi David - that might be more in the domain of Verifiable Credentials,
since it's claims-verification-related.

The Verifiable Credentials map is more complete (both that and the very
rough DID map are at https://kumu.io/andrewhughes3000/rwot )

Having said that, it is possible that the concept map construct is not
going to illuminate how processes work - it just describes relationships
between concepts, not 'how things work'

andrew.

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On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:38 AM Kelts, David <David.Kelts@us.idemia.com>
wrote:

> In particular, I’d like to know how a Verifier entity interacts with the
> Subject, the DID, and the process of verifying cryptographically the
> identity information from the subject (or retrieved from the service
> endpoints).  And where that id info is.
>
>
>
> (apologies if my question seems out-of-touch with DIDS, I’ve been out of
> touch on the topic for a little while)
>
>
>
> David
>
>
>
> *From:* Andrew Hughes <andrewhughes3000@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2018 11:40 AM
> *To:* David.Challener@jhuapl.edu
> *Cc:* pindar.wong@gmail.com; Markus Sabadello <markus@danubetech.com>;
> W3C Credentials CG (Public List) <public-credentials@w3.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Collaborate on a concept map for DIDs based on DID Primer
>
>
>
> Hi folks - yes let's do a second session.
>
>
>
> The DID concept map is very incomplete - we worked through a bunch of
> entities and flagged a bunch for refinement.
>
>
>
> David and Pindar - which time zones are you in? Any particular time
> preference?
>
>
>
> I'm Pacific Daylight Time UTC -7 || BST -8
>
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> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 5:44 AM Challener, David C. <
> David.Challener@jhuapl.edu> wrote:
>
> I second that. I also was not able to make it, and wish I had.
>
> Is the “subject” the only entity?  I appears to be so in the map.
>
> Does a did record only contain  a key and a Did Document value?
>
>
>
> *From:* Pindar Wong <pindar.wong@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2018 3:45 AM
> *To:* markus@danubetech.com
> *Cc:* W3C Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Collaborate on a concept map for DIDs based on DID Primer
>
>
>
> Sorry to miss this as the times didn't quiet work for me.
>
>
>
> p.
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> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 12:00 PM Markus Sabadello <markus@danubetech.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1 Andrew's session on the DID concept map was both fun and very useful in
> clarifying things.
>
> Markus
>
> On 10/12/18 1:05 AM, =Drummond Reed wrote:
>
> A huge high-five to Andrew for leading us through this DID concept map
> work. He has made me a complete convert to concept maps—his work
> in Helsinki on a concept map for the Sovrin glossary was similarly
> enlightening—particularly on the highly abstract concepts
> underlying digital identity.
>
>
>
> The session also definitely highlighted work we need to do in the spec to
> clean up and align terminology. I look forward to doing that in a "DID spec
> finalization push" in November given that the rest of October is a sprint
> to TPAC and IIW (I still wish they were not the same week).
>
>
>
> BTW, for any CCG members coming to IIW, Mike Lodder and I are planning on
> holding a "DID Open Issues" session there to review anything on the open
> issues list in preparation for the DID spec finalization push in November.
> Please do join us for an hour of concentrated work.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 3:09 PM, Andrew Hughes <andrewhughes3000@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> A well-attended and productive call today.
>
>
>
> The DID Spec concept map is better than when we started & we worked
> through some issues that will help improve the spec text (Drummond has the
> notes on that).
>
>
>
> The concept map - work in progress - is here:
>
> https://kumu.io/andrewhughes3000/rwot#decentralized-identifiers
>
>
>
> Note that there are many areas needing more work and refinement - but this
> is a great start
>
> andrew.
>
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> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM Andrew Hughes <andrewhughes3000@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> As discussed on the ccg call today - I'd like to conduct a collaborative
> working session this week to develop a concept map for DIDs, based on the
> text of the DID Primer and DID Spec.
>
>
>
> Similar to the work that Ouri Poupko and I did for Verifiable Credentials
> at RWOT.
>
> See that work here: https://kumu.io/andrewhughes3000/rwot
>
>
>
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