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Re: Terminology poll

From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 16:05:04 +0000
Message-ID: <CAM1Sok06tE0wEBkVi1LWBYVnRjTDESEQffLQvg4hY5j+_5BJsQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, public-credentials@w3.org
Does the claimant necessarily need to agree with the issued claim? Or can
they simply have the claim directed upon them without consent or counter
statement.

Ie: credit check.

Telecommunications company has issue with internal process between outbound
sales and billing system which leads to dispute.

Ie: outsourced sales person signs someone upto a plan that doesn't exist
over the phone.

By the time that's done, and the billing system provides the info after a
cooling off period, the circumstance turns into a dispute.

Dispute is unresolved so telecommunications company lists default on
customers credit record.

Until the dispute is figured out, the "claim" is there yet not necessarily
agreed to by "claimant"...?

Tim.h.

On Tue., 27 Jun. 2017, 1:58 am Manu Sporny, <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
wrote:

> On 06/23/2017 05:12 PM, Joe Andrieu wrote:
> > So, fwiw, I'm leaning toward issuer, claimant, and verifier,
>
> +1, that feels closer to what we want than "Holder" and "Inspector".
>
> While claimant is a bit awkward (not used very commonly in everyday
> conversation), it fits the various modes of operation more accurately
> than "Holder".
>
> For example...
>
> The Claimant:
>
> * sometimes is the Subject of the Claims,
> * sometimes is the Guardian of the Subject,
> * may be the Recipient of the Claims (but not always),
> * may be a Prover - they don't share the Claims, but prove they exist,
> * may be the Owner of the claims, but not always
> * may Present the claims, either directly or indirectly
>
> "The Claimant is the entity that asserts a claim to a Verifier (e.g. I
> am asserting I can drive because the DMV says that I passed my driving
> test OR I'm booking a rental car for my colleague and here is their
> driver's license, which they authorized me to share with you)"
>
> That language feels like it sticks together better than what we have
> been doing over the past several weeks.
>
> -- manu
>
> --
> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny)
> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
> blog: Rebalancing How the Web is Built
> http://manu.sporny.org/2016/rebalancing/
>
>
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