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Re: "Identity" - is a modal notion and the matrix

From: Joe Andrieu <joe@joeandrieu.com>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2017 11:29:40 -0700
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To: public-credentials@w3.org

That's a great video about framing. I'm trying to frame identity in
its functional nature so we can avoid the "irrelevant" conversations
about philosophical, cultural, political, notions of identity. In
Peterson's language, these rabbit holes are obstacles to engineering
good identity systems; I'm hoping "functional" terminology will prove
to be useful tools.

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Christoph Dorn wrote:
> On June 2, 2017 05:58:30 am PDT, "David Chadwick"
> <D.W.Chadwick@kent.ac.uk> wrote:
>> My take on identity (or more properly the process of identifying an
>> entity) is that it is needed by everyone and everything for the
>> functional purpose of authorisation, which is the most generic of all>> functions. It encapsulates all possible actions, including tracking
>> (from Joe's narrower definition). All actions need to be
>> authorised/controlled, thus they need to identify the actors.
>> I identify you to decide whether I want to have or continue a
>> relationship with you (and not with someone else).
> The "functional" point of view being at the "root" seems to be
> consistent with Jordan Peterson's psychological perspective on
> Relevance Conception: Does something Help, Hinder or is it Irrelevant?> 
> Quick overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZXJ_6B07NY
> Christoph
Joe Andrieu, PMP
Received on Friday, 2 June 2017 18:30:08 UTC

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