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Re: Alternative terminology for "consumer"

From: Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 10:14:20 -0700
To: public-credentials@w3.org
Message-ID: <56FAB7EC.6070506@sunshine.net>
On 3/29/16 9:50 AM, Stone, Matt wrote:
> "inquiring" and "accepting" are probably the closest verbs for what
> this party is doing in the transaction.  Neither term is very
> intuitive. -- one of the aspects of "consume" that I like is that of
> impermanence - the claim is consumed once it's verified.  If proof is
> needed again at a later date, it must be verified again.

Interesting. But isn't it true that there will be claims 'accepted' 
for a declared period of time? Subscriptions, access for days or 
weeks, hiring for a two month contract, etc. In these your credential 
is accepted as part of an agreement that has responsibilities on both 
sides, and one of those will be how long you are accepted for.

In this sense I disagree -- it's not instantly consumed. Rather it's 
accepted for a period of time. It seems that's more direct English 
usage than that it's 'consumed over and over and over' during that 
period of time.

Whereas if you, say, purchase a bottle of wine, then your required 
credential is indeed 'consumed' -- but 'accepted' would work just as 
well there for me, whereas it wouldn't in the previous cases.

Steven Rowat

> An achievement or attribute at a given time may be an indelible fact,
> but a claim that is verifiable may not be. Consumption is real in this
> case.
> -stone
> =====
> Matt Stone
> 501-291-1599
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Dave Longley
> <dlongley@digitalbazaar.com <mailto:dlongley@digitalbazaar.com>> wrote:
>     On 03/29/2016 12:22 PM, Stone, Matt wrote:
>     > in which document do we define this?  Is the consumer, the one who
>     > has asked the earner for proof of an achievement?  in job search
>     > scenario, it would be the prospective employer...
>     http://w3c.github.io/webpayments-ig/VCTF/use-cases/index.html#ic-consuming-claims
>     That link talks about consumers of claims and you can click on
>     "consumer" there and it will jump to the glossary section.
>     A "consumer" is one who asks a holder to provide credentials
>     containing
>     verifiable claims so they can authenticate the holder and "consume"
>     those claims in some way. Examples would be merchant websites that
>     need
>     to confirm that a person is of a certain age in order to buy a
>     product,
>     prospective employers that want to verify the credentials of job
>     applicants, and loan officers that want to ensure they are lending to
>     the appropriate person.
>     --
>     Dave Longley
>     CTO
>     Digital Bazaar, Inc.
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