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Re: Payments activity - any point to our time and effort?

From: Christoph Dorn <christoph@christophdorn.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2016 20:00:49 +0000
Message-Id: <201603042000.u24K0n78000841@rs102.luxsci.com>
To: henry.story@bblfish.net
Cc: timothy.holborn@gmail.com, public-credentials@w3.org

On March 4, 2016 11:14:23 am PST, "Henry Story" 
<henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:

> How much does one actually need the browser vendors for this?
> Can one not get a lot of this working with JS, sending credentials 
> signed by some entity?
> At least to start off with?


I am of the opinion that anything specified must be implementable in a 
lightweight fashion in pure JS and thus has the opportunity to make it 
to many places.

I am also of the opinion that anything specified must not treat 
browsers in any special way and thus view them as only one vehicle of 

What is to be specified must have a much broader view than browsers to 
truly capture what is needed.

You can chase channels to try and ram your solutions through or you can 
show the way by working on something that truly works and solves the 
problems and let it naturally proliferate. The latter may take longer 
but seems to capture much better what at least I am trying to achieve.


>> On 4 Mar 2016, at 14:30, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've been reading this: 
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-wg/2016Feb/0527.html 
>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-wg/2016Feb/0527.html>
>> Is our work valuable at all or is this some sick joke that looks 
>> like Wall Street Execs vs. the concept of law and such things for 
>> the billions of other humans around the planet...?
>> After reading this, I have severe concerns about the viability of 
>> building anything meaningful here.  I think that should be made 
>> clear.  W3C was established due to issues that emerged sometime ago. 
>>  New issues threaten humanity as is influenced specifically by web 
>> standards.  Their are a number of very troubling problems here, and 
>> I fully support Manu, who's work has brought all this together and 
>> to suggest otherwise is an act of horrific behaviour I very much 
>> doubt they'd want subject to accountability, as such,
>> What are we doing here?
>> Timh.
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