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Re: decentralised

From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 00:40:08 +0000
Message-ID: <CAM1Sok3mmaUe6S215PfpwF7pMBRWncHHtmfEN1iKxZdegmxquQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>, Dave Longley <dlongley@digitalbazaar.com>
Cc: W3C Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
it's not that simple.


+ Current implementation:


On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 at 09:33 Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>

> On 13 June 2016 at 20:36, Dave Longley <dlongley@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:
>> On 06/12/2016 10:30 PM, Timothy Holborn wrote:
>>> I'm listening to: http://w3c.github.io/vctf/meetings/2016-06-08/
>>> @~40 minutes an issue about whether or not the Decentralised
>>> identifier methodology works and until their is something that exists
>>> with a million or so use it - it's a research project..
>>> So, Internet protocol and the Domain Name Server methodology, how's
>>> that not a decentralised identifier system for machines?
>> It is, but it's not self-sovereign.
>> http://opencreds.org/specs/source/webdht/
>> "The Web currently does not have a mechanism where people and
>> organizations can claim identifiers that they have sole ownership over.
>> Identifiers, such as those rooted in domain names like emails addresses
>> and website addresses, are effectively rented by people and
>> organizations rather than owned. Therefore, their use as long-term
>> identifiers is dependent upon parameters outside of their control. One
>> danger is that if the rent is not paid, all data associated with the
>> identifier can be made temporarily or permanently inaccessible. This
>> document specifies a mechanism where people and organizations can
>> cryptographically claim ownership over identifiers such that they
>> control them and the documents that they refer to."
> This is not a significant danger.  It's like saying the google could lose
> google.com due to factors outside of their control.  It wont happen, will
> it?
> The fact is there's a small management fee for maintaining a global lookup
> table, which can be as low as $1 a year, and if you want a vanity address
> it's a bit more expensive.
> What you get for that price is participation in the biggest global network
> in the history of the planet, allowing you to publish arbitrary documents
> and code, for you, and anyone you wish to put on a subdomain.  We've never
> had anything like this before.
>> --
>> Dave Longley
>> CTO
>> Digital Bazaar, Inc.
>> http://digitalbazaar.com
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