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Re: SAMPLE ballot for terminology vote

From: Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 06:50:56 -0700
To: public-credentials@w3.org, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
Message-ID: <961a2c31-71f3-364a-6749-f03f65a0a6f6@sunshine.net>

After seeing that Eric has just suggested
"Entity Credential"
for the 'Credential' position in the model in another thread, I also 
suggest then
"Entity Profile"
for the 'Identity' position.

If Entity Credential is voted and chosen, then Entity Profile becomes 
a logical choice for the other potion, by much of the same reasoning I 
gave below.

Steven

On 6/9/16 6:18 AM, Steven Rowat wrote:
> On 6/8/16 6:57 PM, Manu Sporny wrote:
>> Please ensure that you're okay with the sample poll above because once
>> the polls open on Friday, that's it for this round of terminology
>> discussion/voting.
>
> After viewing the list of "Identity / Profile / Persona" as choices, I
> found I wanted one added to the list which I'd prefer:
>
> Identity Profile
>
> Why it is better:
> 1. It says clearly that this is one fixed embodiment ('profile') of
> the defining characteristics ('identity') of the entity in question.
> And that there could be any number of others.
> 2. In my opinion this is exactly what the Verifiable Claims standard
> is attempting to achieve for this position in the model.
> 3. This English usage is already widely adopted for this usage in the
> psychology community, both alternative and mainstream (Google
> "identity profile").
>
> Problems with the other options:
>
> 'Identity'
> Joe and others have made a strong case that 'Identity' on its own is
> nebulous, and as widely used confuses the entity itself with the
> representation of the entity. I would like to add that there's an
> analogy to this in patent law, where a patent examiner or judge will
> reject an invention unless it's a 'fixed embodiment' of an idea. Just
> the idea itself is not patentable. While we're not trying to patent
> anything here, I believe the same difference occurs with 'identity'
> versus 'identity profile'. The 'identity profile' is the fixed
> embodiment, which is what we can get into code. There can be many
> different ones, but each is fixed and named. 'Identity' is the idea
> that these come from. It's hard to agree on, and best avoided.
>
> 'Profile'
> Possible, but overly vague. A profile is one view of something, but
> not just an entity. It could be a rock or a house. A look at something
> from one specific angle. But looking at what from what angle? My
> 'sports profile', my 'academic profile', are common uses. I think
> 'identity profile' narrows it well.
>
> 'Persona'
> Possible, but in common use it's strongly tied to the character of a
> human being, and can include a negative connotation (Random House
> dictionary: "the mask or fa├žade presented to satisfy the demands of
> the situation"). It's also so common as to have many many connections:
> 328 million hits on Google, versus 414 thousand for "Identity
> Profile". Already used by Mozilla as their Persona login system. Taken
> together I think there's a strong chance of it being overly vague,
> misleading, and/or confusing with other uses. Best avoided IMO.
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> Steven
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