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Re: No discussion of patents, was Re: Social AUTH Patent

From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:34:21 +0000
Message-ID: <CAM1Sok26MG2J82b8+pcQFUAVs_kE4ZNxrTu=_-Xb4Hx2YyiQVw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>, W3C Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>, public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>, "public-webid@w3.org" <public-webid@w3.org>
Sorry, auto text.

Sando = Sandro

Hope it has been deleted, pursuant to the policy process outlined by w3,
et.al.
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 at 12:31 am, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I honestly had no idea about these issues. I've followed up locally with
> other lawyers who I work with, they didn't understand either.
>
> Sando, in no small way, is a guru. It was upsetting corrapondence to
> receive, which, subject to good faith, may have been responded to with an
> explaination, IMHO.
>
> Legal ontology / data-rights ontology might be able to graph such
> considerations, as to ensure the rule of law in all juristions plays a more
> important role.
>
> That way perhaps such issues could result in the piece being hidden from
> view to U.S. citizens, where issues apply.
>
> A bit like the fb timeline being selective, just different.
>
> Apologies again. Hope it's all not deleted, and some context inserted to
> give reason for censorship undertaking, et.al.
>
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 at 12:24 am, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 08/06/2015 06:50 PM, Timothy Holborn wrote:
>> > I'm Australian. Are you not allowed to read about knowledge in the
>> > U.S.?
>> >
>> > I have no awareness of the fears embodied within the breach of best
>> > practices, and certainly don't like that the first email from you to
>> > me, being scornful.
>>
>> Hey Tim, I don't think there was any scorn intended. Sandro is,
>> rightfully, trying to protect the various groups dealing in this space.
>> If we were to have read the patent material that you had linked to, it
>> could expose the hundreds of mailing list participants to treble
>> damages[1]. There is a big difference in being sued for $5M USD and $15M
>> USD. :)
>>
>> We absolutely should not read any patents or link to them in any of the
>> standards-based work we're doing. It has nothing to do w/ what /you/ can
>> do (your rights aren't being limited). It has to do with what you're
>> exposing the rest of the group to (in the US).
>>
>> -- manu
>>
>> [1]
>> http://www.iplawalert.com/2013/03/articles/patent/treble-damages-for-willful-patent-infringement-become-elusive/
>>
>> --
>> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny)
>> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
>> blog: Web Payments: The Architect, the Sage, and the Moral Voice
>> https://manu.sporny.org/2015/payments-collaboration/
>>
>
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