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Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Digital Signatures for Credentials

From: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 14:46:50 -0500
Message-ID: <547CC5AA.8020702@digitalbazaar.com>
To: W3C Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
CC: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>, Stéphane Boyera <boyera@w3.org>
Closing out this thread, but not before correcting a few pieces of

On 11/22/2014 02:31 PM, Harry Halpin wrote:
> Yes, and SM was not accepted by the IETF.

SM was never submitted to IETF. Review comments on JOSE using SM as a
comparison were submitted to IETF.

> particularly when a well-known cryptographer such as Manger found a 
> number of beginner crypto errors in a draft.

... errors which were largely editorial and fixed within the week:


> Further, pretending it is a "standard" or endorsed by the W3C is 
> problematic

That's a gross misrepresentation of both the intent of the email and
what actually happened. I don't doubt that there was confusion, and I'll
be the first to admit that was my fault in not using the proper language
in the review email. However, I thought that was cleared
up by you very soon after the initial email was sent and therefore,
there was very little to no damage done:


> The general strategy of taking a note made by a few people, branding 
> it a "W3C specification" due to a Community Group process, and then 
> pretending something is a normative standard and pushing it on other 
> WGs or outsiders who may not know any better is something to be 
> actively discouraged for *any specification*.

Again, this is a gross misrepresentation of both the intent and what
actually happened.

-- manu

Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny)
Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
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