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Re: Summary of Ian understanding of MWC demo (2012-12-06)

From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 13:46:43 -0600
Cc: <public-coremob-camera@w3.org>
Message-Id: <0FF960BF-E8E7-4CF9-80EF-B053E53D2B15@w3.org>
To: <john.kneeland@nokia.com> <john.kneeland@nokia.com>

On 7 Dec 2012, at 9:28 AM, <john.kneeland@nokia.com> <john.kneeland@nokia.com> wrote:

> Great work, Ian. My thoughts regarding the "bonus" bits:
> 
> Re: Bonus 2
> I would almost be hesitant to have the option of accessing the camera app on anything other than our local network, because the cell networks and wifi are likely to be overloaded and so visitors trying to use it may get a suboptimal experience that accidentally reinforces their bad preconceptions about HTML5.

They have bad preconceptions?? :)

I'd love to hear from others on this as well (as it may mean less work if we drop this bonus for the booth demo).
Ian

> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Ian Jacobs [mailto:ij@w3.org] 
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 12:10 PM
> To: public-coremob-camera@w3.org
> Subject: Summary of Ian understanding of MWC demo (2012-12-06)
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Please find below my updated understanding of the W3C MWC 2013 demo app. 
> 
> See "who is doing what" at the end. The camera app and the gallery app are taken are of. I will need additional help building the glue between them. I will ask internally, but welcome volunteers on this list.
> 
> Ian
> 
> ==========
> Camera App
> 
> * Takes and store photos locally
> * Views locally (single photo, photo st)
> * Applies filter(s) to a photo
> * Shares a photo
> 
> ==========
> Sharing Modules (user selects from among these)
> 
> * To Facebook
> * To Dropbox
> * To W3C PhoTobie (or, if you prefer: W3C PhotoMomi!)
> 
> Question: Is the user going to be able to choose a facebook or dropbox account, or will there be one predefined for sharing?
> 
> ==========
> Gallery App
> 
> * Built using Joshfire tool. 
> * Displays photos, allows navigation, on phone/tablet/laptop/tv
>   (e.g., TV navigation using remote control).
> * The app reads a photo feed running on the local server.
> 
> Notes: 
> 
>  - Joshfire showed me the gallery app today; it's great. They do not
>    yet support feeds from Dropbox but are interested in implementing
>    that feature.
>  - Joshfire will look at augmenting the app to respond to notification
>    that a new photo has been shared. We think it will be done with
>    server-sent events.
> 
> ==========
> W3C PhoTobie (service)
> 
> * Accepts POST requests from the camera app (optionally with authentication)
>   and stores photo.
> * Generates a feed of photo data used by the gallery app. Joshfire will
>   send me information about the feed syntax. 
> * Notifies the gallery app (server-sent events?) that the feed has
>   been updated.
> 
>   Question: What's the best way to get the Joshfire app to highlight the 
>   newly shared photo? 
> 
> Note: 
> 
> - Maybe there is more than one service to do these three things. I just
>   assumed one for now.
> 
> ==========
> Bonus 1: Gallery display of photos from a predetermined Dropbox account.
> 
> * The gallery app can display N photo feeds. We will have one for
>   the local host, but we could also display a second feed from
>   an external service. Each feed is displayed on its own tab (in the
>   demo I saw.)
> * There is not yet support in the gallery app for Dropbox, but
>   Francois indicated they would like to add it.
> * Hence my question about the camera app above: if the camera app
>   is set up so that we can save to a Dropbox account that we know
>   about in advance, we can set up the gallery app to display those
>   photos as well (assuming we have internet access from the laptop).
> 
> ==========
> Bonus 2: Booth visitors can also run the camera app on their own smart phones.
> 
> * We will be running a local network from a laptop in the booth.
> * The camera app, gallery app, and PhoTobie will run on the same
>   server in the local network of the booth (no CORS issues).
> * The screens will be connected to the network with cables.
> * The phone we will use to demo the camera app
>   will connect to the network through wifi or bluetooth.
> * Visitors who want to try out the camera app would have to join our
>   local network.
> * HOWEVER, if we have Internet access from the laptop and the visitor
>   has Internet access from the phone we can:
> 
>   - Run a clone of the camera app on w3.org.
>   - Let user share photos to w3.org.
>   - Those photos are made available on the local server as well (either
>     because we only ever use one directory, or we rsync the photos, 
>     or whatever).
>   - We notify the local gallery app that a new photo has been saved
>     and the photo shows up on our demo wall.
> 
> * People will run the app from a QR code (or some simple URI like
>   w3.org/2013/camera).
> * We can also use the dropbox option (if we are displaying
>   a dropbox feed in the booth).
> 
> ==========
> Thinking about URIs
> 
>  localhost/apps/camera
>  localhost/apps/gallery
>  localhost/services/photobie
>  localhost/feeds/demophotos
> 
> 
> ==========
> Who is doing what:
> 
> * Tobie and Tomomi: Camera app, including access to PhoTobie
> 
> * Francois and Steren (in January):
>   - add dropbox feature (Bonus 1)
>   - enable creation of app that auto-redisplays when photo feed is updated.
>   - build the gallery app so we can start to test it
> 
> * W3C: 
>   - PhoTobie (accept shared photos, generate feed for gallery app, notify gallery app.)
>   - Set up w3.org and clone of gallery app to allow people to
>     share pictures to w3.org; sync with localhost repository (Bonus 2)
> 
> --
> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org)    http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/
> Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
> 
> 
> 

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Tel:                                      +1 718 260 9447
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