Re: I considered presenting

http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/pangaia/index.php?title=Open_Currency_Network


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Brent Shambaugh
<brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hmm...
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> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/pangaia/index.php?title=New_economic_system
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> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 1:22 AM, Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com
> > wrote:
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>> at one point I got into automata and started wondering about scheme,
>> lisp, prolog and all that......
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Brent Shambaugh <
>> brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Mark, thanks for the link. I'll keep it in mind. Early on I thought
>>> about visualization in layers to keep to make things a bit easier spatially
>>> (if I can recall correctly), I also thought about various hypergraphs and
>>> topic maps at one point. In addition, I'll admit that I am very interested
>>> in neuroscience.
>>>
>>> <1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergraph
>>> <2> http://topicmaps.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Brent Shambaugh <
>>> brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm feeling strongly about this. I also know some people who might be
>>>> able to help with this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Brent Shambaugh <
>>>> brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a hunch a lot lies in things like Payswarm and Ripple. I mean
>>>>> it certainly is emotional for me. Payswarm can keep track of intentions,
>>>>> and Ripple allows of decentralized payment and may keep track of
>>>>> intentions. Something (experience and otherwise) is telling me to focus
>>>>> more on web payments.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had a lot of problems with trying to look at everything to see
>>>>> patterns, try to avoid reinventing the wheel. Eventually, I concluded that
>>>>> to implement stuff I just needed to study more languages (but more, so it
>>>>> is looking like JavaScript) and if I was bothered by the theory or wanted
>>>>> help understanding how it would work best than CS stuff. It was all very
>>>>> confusing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I safely ditch https://www.coursera.org/course/hci(Human-Computer Interaction),
>>>>> https://www.coursera.org/course/pgm (Probabilistic Graphical Models),
>>>>> https://www.coursera.org/course/bigdata (Web Intelligence and Big
>>>>> Data), https://www.coursera.org/course/gamification (Gamification)
>>>>> and put it on the shelf for now? Clearly building a distributed economy is
>>>>> a massive undertaking, and these things could certainly come into play.
>>>>> Money, or at least some record of exchange, appears to be a very important
>>>>> part. Knowing this to build something may not be necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to commit more time to this, and obviously I have to focus in
>>>>> order to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Patrick Anderson <agnucius@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Creating a usable barter system also requires actions be
>>>>>> accompolished *early* in time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is my vision of such a system:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First of all, this requires something I call either a "Production
>>>>>> Arena", or (less often) a "Vertically Integrated Permaculture Mosaic".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Production Arena (or VIPM) is the interlocking Physical Sources
>>>>>> such as land and water rights and plants and animals and tools and other
>>>>>> things needed to create a "Basic Outcome" for all the participants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And so we attract middle-to-upper-income investors to supply the
>>>>>> money to buy these Physical Sources for an advertised return of organic
>>>>>> goods and services in the future - though they will actually be receiving
>>>>>> co-ownership in the Production Arena, and receiving the goods and services
>>>>>> as a 'side-effect' of that co-ownership.  In this way we eliminate the
>>>>>> buying and selling of those goods and services.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And we must also attract middle-to-lower-income investors to
>>>>>> cross-commit their *future* labor in return for co-ownership in the
>>>>>> Production Arena.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By "cross-commit" I mean each worker will promise to work in a
>>>>>> specific part of the Production Arena (say milking cows) in return for
>>>>>> receiving co-ownership in many other parts of the Production Arena needed
>>>>>> to supply him with all of his basic needs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need to refine how I explain this, because there is a bit more to
>>>>>> it that I did not include in the above...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Each investors (whether committing money or future labor) will
>>>>>> usually receive a 'bundle' of property-rights *and* commitments from others
>>>>>> to perform the future labor necessary to accomplish that production.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example, the cow-milker would usually receive both ownership in
>>>>>> the dentist office *and* commitments from the dentist to fix his teeth in
>>>>>> the future when necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When used in conjunction these commitments create the kind of
>>>>>> security that insurance pretends to deliver.  I sometimes call it "life
>>>>>> assurance".
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Brent Shambaugh
>>>>>
>>>>> I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently
>>>>> researching how to build better economies.
>>>>>  Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Brent Shambaugh
>>>>
>>>> I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching
>>>> how to build better economies.
>>>> Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brent Shambaugh
>>>
>>> I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching
>>> how to build better economies.
>>> Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brent Shambaugh
>>
>> I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching
>> how to build better economies.
>> Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com
>>
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>
>
> --
> Brent Shambaugh
>
> I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching
> how to build better economies.
> Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com
>



-- 
Brent Shambaugh

I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching how
to build better economies.
Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com