Re: modeling shares of benefits (ex. electricity in a grid, trips on common transit etc.)

☮ elf Pavlik ☮ wrote:
> this GNUrho sounds somehow like what i refer to
> as *fictional monetary currency* nowadays
> including USD/EURO & co. Bitcoin, LETS etc.

Hey, those currencies are backed by either
*nothing* or (even worse) by *debt*.

The GNUrho is not fictional, it is real Insurance.

Each GNUrho is a bundle of "Property Ownership
Titles" combined with a set of "Labor Bonds" that
'back' - or in other words 'guarantee' (with
limitations) the production of some good or
service.

For example, if you co-own a Dentist office and
all the tools for Dentristry, and you also 'hire'
(by cross-committing future labor within the VIPM)
a Dentist or two, then you have created actual
Dental Insurance that does not require
token-passing except to account for whether a
co-owner has already received some instance of
that product (for example, whether you have had
your scheduled checkup).



> i find it quite straight forward that all the
> contributors from making steel, then parts,
> transporting it, assembling, cooking food in
> factories participating in production, fixing
> buses and driving them, all might like to have
> their shares of *bus trips* from the pool made
> possible by capacity of this bus.

That is important for any such worker that *wants*
bus trips, and we must track this case, but it is
the most simple case.

The more difficult case to consider is when the
worker wants to be compensated with goods or
services that have nothing to do with making or
driving or maintaining buses.

For example, a bus driver needs many things such
as food and shelter and clothing and soap and
utilities that he cannot spend his time dealing
with, and so wants others to do that work *for
him* in exchange for driving the bus for them (or
sometimes the connection will not be so direct -
such that the bus driver would be working for
person A who is working for person B who is
working for person C who is working for the bus
driver).

Resolving these dependency chains is too slow for
the barter of Products *after* production is
complete.

But we have time to resolve these chains when
bartering Skills *before* production begins.



> by sticking to the actual benefit of this very involved collaborative process: *bus trips* and sharing it among all contributors, we don't introduce any fictional artifact as in monetary currencies :)

I understand your intent, but it is not quite
complicated enough ;)

In order for us to enjoy the benefits of voluntary
specialization, we must also allow workers to
"cross-commit" value to projects for which they
have the skills but do not want any of the
Product.

This allows people to concentrate on jobs they
enjoy (and of course that are needed within the
VIPM) without worrying that other facets of their
lives are being neglected.

So, for example, the bus driver can drive the bus
all day long and still get his clothes sewn and
his dinner made by others who are not part of the
bus



> VIPM?

A Vertically Integrated Permaculture Mosaic is an
agriculturally-based "Production Arena" used as a
platform to gain control of our basic needs.

Received on Thursday, 30 August 2012 20:37:12 UTC