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Re: 18 point or 14 point bold

From: Makoto Ueki <makoto.ueki@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:23:31 +0900
Message-ID: <29e2613a0810240223n14f46ff7u79b7079f6868d67d@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Loretta Guarino Reid" <lorettaguarino@google.com>
Cc: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org

Dear WCAG WG,

Thanks for the response. But I have additional question on this issue.

> ================================
> Response from the Working Group
> ================================
> Since the note relates to the definition of large scale text, we have
> removed this sentence "This success criterion is based on common pixel
> sizes available today." Additional detail about why 14 point bold and
> 18 point were chosen can be found in the understanding 1.4.3 and 1.4.6
> documents.

JIS working group reviewed the Understanding 1.4.3 and 1.4.6 before we
sent our comment. It read:
---
18 point text or 14 point bold text is judged to be large enough to
require a lower contrast ratio. "18 point" and "bold" can both have
different meanings in different fonts but, except for very thin or
unusual fonts, they should be sufficient. Since there are so many
different fonts, the general measures are used and a note regarding
fancy or thin fonts is included.
---
This explanation was not enough. It didn't describe why "18" and "14
bold" were choosen. It just says "judged to be large enough". We have
to understand why those sizes are "judged to be large enough". Without
it, other languages such as CJK won't be able to find the equivalent
font sizes.

Need more details in the Understanding 1.4.3 and 1.4.6 documents.


2008/10/24 Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:54 AM, WCAG 2.0 Comment Form <nobody@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Name: Makoto Ueki
>> Email: makoto.ueki@gmail.com
>> Affiliation: JIS Working Group
>> Document: W2
>> Item Number: Appendix A: Glossary
>> Part of Item:
>> Comment Type: question
>> Summary of Issue: 18 point or 14 point bold
>> Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):
>> What is "common pixel sizes available today"? 1024 x 768?
>>
>> Proposed Change:
>> We need more concrete premise for the users display.
>>
>>
>
> ================================
> Response from the Working Group
> ================================
> Since the note relates to the definition of large scale text, we have
> removed this sentence "This success criterion is based on common pixel
> sizes available today." Additional detail about why 14 point bold and
> 18 point were chosen can be found in the understanding 1.4.3 and 1.4.6
> documents.
>
> Loretta Guarino Reid, WCAG WG Co-Chair
> Gregg Vanderheiden, WCAG WG Co-Chair
> Michael Cooper, WCAG WG Staff Contact
>
>
> On behalf of the WCAG Working Group
>
Received on Friday, 24 October 2008 09:32:30 GMT

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