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RE: Duplicate General techniques: form validation

From: Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:52:51 -0400
To: "'Loretta Guarino Reid'" <lorettaguarino@google.com>
Cc: <public-comments-wcag20@w3.org>
Message-ID: <488e2ef8.26e3220a.7429.ffffe108@mx.google.com>

Refer to my public comment about G83, G84, G85 on Jul. 11, 2008 and WG's
response on Jul 24 suggesting I send in a technique covering generic
validation issues. 
I strongly believe SCR 18 is such a technique that addresses all types of
validation errors. So I have written one that could be covered under server
side techniques and submitted it today on Jul 28, 2008. 
G83, G84 and G85 really do not suggest any "general" technique. They suggest
client side or server side based solutions. 
In the technique I submitted today, I have included an extensive writeup
about different types of validation checks. G83 , G84, G85 deal only with 3
of the 8 types of checks I list. 
Sailesh Panchang
Accessibility Services Manager (Web and Software)
Deque Systems Inc. (www.deque.com)
11130 Sunrise Valley Drive, Suite #140,
Reston VA 20191
Phone: 703-225-0380 (ext 105)
E-mail: sailesh.panchang@deque.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Loretta Guarino Reid [mailto:lorettaguarino@google.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:28 PM
To: sailesh.panchang@deque.com
Cc: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org
Subject: Re: Duplicate General techniques: form validation and alt-text

Please see responses inline.

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Sailesh Panchang
<sailesh.panchang@deque.com> wrote:
>
> 1. G83, G84 and G85 that relate to SC 3.3.1 and 3.3.3 employ the same
> testing techniques: Check if validation errors are described in text with
> appropriate tips for correction.
> They could be incomplete data, incorrect range of values or incorrect
format
> or even other (unstated) errors like values entered in one field may not
be
> consistent with other entries in the form. All  are basically validation
> errors. Three separate techniques are not warranted. Merge them.
>
> G83: Providing text descriptions to identify required fields that were not
> completed
> G84: Providing a text description when the user provides information that
is
> not in the list of allowed values
> G85: Providing a text description when user input falls outside the
required
> format or values

================================
Response from the Working Group
================================
While it is true that these are all examples of validation errors, we
think it is helpful to separate them. It draws more attention to these
particular types of validation for which there are suggestions
available. This list is by no means exhaustive, and a generic
validation technique would be a good addition. Would you help us by
writing one and submitting it via
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/TECHS-SUBMIT/  ?

>
Received on Monday, 28 July 2008 20:42:11 GMT

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