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Telecon minutes for 19 July 19th July, 2018

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 11:06:53 -0400
To: public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org
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Notes from the COGA working session teleconference of 19 July are provided
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                                                                                   - DRAFT -


19 Jul 2018


          janina, kirkwood, Glenda, LisaSeemanKestenbaum, Roy, MichaelC

          Glenda, John_Rochford




     * Topics
         1. Hollidays?
     * Summary of Action Items
     * Summary of Resolutions

   <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> agenda

   <scribe> scribe: janina

   <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> scribe: Janina


   None from me

   jk: No, don't think so, but maybe

   ls: Propose we'll keep meeting and work on the doc, even if we don't have quorum to make decisions
   ... JK? TPAC?

   jk: No

   <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> no quarum

   ls: two items ready for review
   ... Looking for direction--they're close

   <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#heading=h.msly33vnkwe6

   <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Make the structure and relationships clear

   <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Clear dividers between different sections that may have separate controls or a scroll bar

   <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Clear dividers around areas with different functions, such as call out boxes, navigation bars, and advertisements

   <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Sub-menu items that are clearly associated with the main menu items under which they fall.

   <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> The tool bar and controls are visible

   <kirkwood> ‚€˜are always visible‚€™ might be better?

   js: Suggests cross referencing requirements on programmatic exposure of structure and groupings

   ls: Notes examples, e.g. borders
   ... WCAG 1.3.1
   ... should it be separate that we want menu items clearly grouped and associated with the menu item under which they fall
   ... Should that be a separate comment?

   jk: prefer separate req

   ls: done
   ... controls that affect only portion of a page ...
   ... e.g. when there may be more than one scrollbar, each affecting a different region of the page ...

   <kirkwood> Avoid multiple scrolling areas on a page

   jk: Avoiding multiple scrolling areas/regions in a page?
   ... Each region and its associated controls just need to be clearly delineated

   <kirkwood> visually apparant

   <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Each region and its associated controls can be clearly recognised

   <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> Each region and its controls can be clearly recognized

   <kirkwood> agree

   ls: we'll suggest avoiding multiple scrollable regions
   ... Also have examples of failures--bad practice

   <alastairc> Gov.uk has pretty recognisable regions. https://www.gov.uk/

   <alastairc> screenshot of gov.uk with aria-roles highlighted. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Zv08pNWw/gov-uk-sections.png

   ls: Looking at the section that talks about supporting personalization ...
   ... complicated, and probably needs a bit more work to clarify things

   <johnkirkwood> sorry due to a tech issue, kicked out of doc. could put link back in here

   <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#heading=h.msly33vnkwe6

   <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#heading=h.1c3z8hl2ynl6

   ls: Will continue to work on this ...
   ... Asking people to work on design criteria language
   ... Believe we're not far away from publishing a useful draft
   ... Notes the first one is the best formulated so far, so a good example of what we need

   <johnkirkwood> can you put a link to the first one ?

   jk: asks for link

   <johnkirkwood> mentioned as a good example

   <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#heading=h.729zggqj0s8d

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

   [End of minutes]

Present: janina kirkwood Glenda LisaSeemanKestenbaum Roy MichaelC
Regrets: Glenda John_Rochford
Found Scribe: Janina


Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
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