Re: Public Feedback on Familiar Design (Minimum) #49

HI Gregg,


   1. This is a level A.
   2. The following exception addressed your second concern - Exception:
   The style is an essential part of the main function of the site, such as
   for a game.
   3. The concept of personalization is found throughout much of our
   material. The is also a related SC here:
   https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/6

Hope this answers all your questions.

Best,
Thaddeus

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Gregg C Vanderheiden <greggvan@umd.edu>
wrote:

> Hi
>
> A few questions
>
> what level is this proposed for?
>
> Does this eliminate any innovation or special interfaces for games or
> education or ????
>
> what does “personalized” mean?     How do I test that my interface is
> personalizable?
>
>
> Just asking questions early that will be asked later. D
>
> Gregg C Vanderheiden
> greggvan@umd.edu
>
>
>
> On Apr 14, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Michael Pluke <Mike.Pluke@castle-consult.com>
> wrote:
>
> I’m definitely in favour of removing “easily” and “successfully” – this
> will never be accepted with these words in it. As a previous user interface
> will obviously have been used by users in a prior version, the last bullet
> should be cut down to just read “User interface from a prior version.”
>
> I think that we may have to go a little further than just removing
> “easily” from “ easily identifiable” as “identifiable is probably still an
> issue. How can someone test that a feature is “identifiable” – other than
> by running user tests to see whether the vast majority of users are able to
> identify that this feature is present? We know that requiring user testing
> to be able to see whether an SC has been met will not be accepted by the
> AGWG (or by people who will expect to use WCAG 2.1 in procurement). So I
> think that it will be necessary to remove “easily identifiable and”. Other
> SCs should ensure that the listed UI features are programmatically
> determinable, but nothing in WCAG currently requires that UI features are
> “identifiable” in the sense that they can be seen. There are however other
> SCs that cover aspects of the visibility of UI features such as contrast,
> etc.
>
> So I think that what we should be left with is:
>
>
> *Familiar design (Minimum): *Help, navigation to help and search forms
> are available to the user in one or more of the following ways:
>
>    - Platform specific: A platform specific user interface design.
>    - Adaptive interface: An adaptive user interface design that can be
>    personalized.
>    - User interface from a prior version.
>
> Best regards
>
> Mike
>
>
> *F**rom:* Thaddeus [mailto:inclusivethinking@gmail.com
> <inclusivethinking@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* 14 April 2017 17:35
> *To:* public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>
> *Cc:* Joshue O Connor <josh@interaccess.ie>
> *Subject:* Public Feedback on Familiar Design (Minimum) #49
>
> Good Morning Group,
>
> I was out for a couple of weeks and picking up on my SC Management.
>
> I seem to have the following consistent feedback on Familiar Design
>
> a. Easily and successfully are highly subjective terms. Please remove. -
> NOTE: this seems acceptable. Is it OK with the group to remove these terms?
>
> 'A user interface design that was used successfully by users in a prior
> version of the application' - this is inherently subjective and not a
> repeatable test. - NOTE: Historically there seems to have been a lot of
> pushback on this. Would we consider removing?
>
> Please bear with me as I get through managing these. It is a little
> overwhelming.
>
> Original SC Below:
>
>
> *Familiar design (Minimum): *Help, navigation to help and search forms
> are easily identifiable and available to the user in one or more of the
> following ways:
>
>    - Platform specific: A platform specific user interface design.
>    - Adaptive interface: An adaptive user interface design that can be
>    personalized.
>    - User interface from a prior version: A user interface design that
>    was used successfully by users in a prior version of the application.
>
>
> Exception: The style is an essential part of the main function of the
> site, such as for a game.
>
> Best!
> Thaddeus
>
>
>