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Re: Minutes: Canvas Accessibility Sub Group Teleconference, 19 MAY 2014

From: Rik Cabanier <cabanier@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 08:23:47 -0700
Message-ID: <CAGN7qDCji2r905SRF=1B7UnzPUtcgc9SZA9sai92MQmJoiXSQA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Mark Sadecki <mark@w3.org>, "public-canvas-api@w3.org" <public-canvas-api@w3.org>, HTML A11Y TF Public <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Hi Rich


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 5:11 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> I apologize for not making the meeting last night. I had a fire to put out
> at IBM.
>
> In your note you mentioned filing a bug on Safari for what I think you
> meant was for Chrome. Chrome is based on blink which has forked the webkit
> code base.
>
 No, blink/chrome has implemented drawFocusIfNeeded and is about to ship it.
They're also planning on implementing the hit regions:
https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=328961

>
> Have bugs been filed on Webkit for drawFocusIfPossible and hit regions?
> Safari picks up Webkit. Has Rik spoken to Apple about implementing these
> canvas features?
>

I implemented drawFocusIfNeeded on WebKit so that should make it to Safari
at some point.
Mark is going to file a bug on hit region for WebKit. The WK people told me
that they have no issue with our simplified version.

>
> From: Mark Sadecki <mark@w3.org>
> To: HTML A11Y TF Public <public-html-a11y@w3.org>,
> public-canvas-api@w3.org
> Date: 05/19/2014 05:38 PM
> Subject: Minutes: Canvas Accessibility Sub Group Teleconference, 19 MAY
> 2014
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> The minutes for the Canvas Accessibility Sub Group Teleconference 19 MAY
> 2014
> are available in HTML and plain text below.  Supporting information for
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> TEXT:
>
>   [1]W3C
>
>      [1] http://www.w3.org/
>
>             Canvas Accessibility Sub Group Teleconference
>
> 19 May 2014
>
>   See also: [2]IRC log
>
>      [2] http://www.w3.org/2014/05/19-html-a11y-irc
>
> Attendees
>
>   Present
>          MarkS, Jay Munro, Rik Cabanier
>
>   Regrets
>   Chair
>          Mark Sadecki
>
>   Scribe
>          MarkS
>
> Contents
>
>     * [3]Topics
>         1. [4]Implementations
>         2. [5]Testing
>         3. [6]Canvas 2D Level 2 Heartbeat
>         4. [7]Next Meeting
>     * [8]Summary of Action Items
>     __________________________________________________________
>
>   <trackbot> Date: 19 May 2014
>
>   <scribe> Meeting: Canvas Accessibility Sub-Group Sub-Group
>
>   <scribe> scribe: MarkS
>
> Implementations
>
>   RC: Submitted Pasches, there were memory leaks, I got feedback
>   and resubmitted for feedback. Either tomorrow or wednesday it
>   should be in FF.
>   ... if its in Nightly, it should be in release around
>   september.
>
>   MS: any progress getting drawFocus into release?
>
>   RC: Approved by Safari and FF. FF will have it coming in
>   September.
>   ... not enough support in blink just yet.
>   ... dominic was going to try to give them more info on it.
>   ... samsung and dominic are going to start working on hit
>   regions in chrome.
>
>   MS: would it help if we filed a bug for Safari?
>
>   RC: I don't think that would help. someone just needs to decide
>   to do it.
>   ... it would have to be in the next month or so to make it in
>   this year.
>   ... drawFocus should be in the next safari (8), but Hit Region
>   will probably not make it.
>
>   JM: Microsoft is looking into it, so that is as far as I know.
>   ... confirmed from JMann that there is still no definitive news
>
> Testing
>
>   [9]http://www.w3.org/Talks/2014/0510-canvas-a11y/index.html#1
>
>      [9] http://www.w3.org/Talks/2014/0510-canvas-a11y/index.html#1
>
>   [10]http://www.w3.org/Talks/2014/0510-canvas-a11y/index.html#34
>
>     [10] http://www.w3.org/Talks/2014/0510-canvas-a11y/index.html#34
>
>   MS: learned a lot about canvas recently preparing slides for
>   talk and should be able to start writing tests.
>
>   RC: I can send you a link to the discussion RE Blink
>
> Canvas 2D Level 2 Heartbeat
>
>   MS: When is the heartbeat scheduled for L2?
>
>   JM: Paul has been talking about doing it at the same time we
>   take L1 to CR
>   ... there are a couple of things that I think need to be
>   updated.
>   ... drawSystemFocusRing needs to get removed again (reappeared)
>   and then remove the sprite animation example
>   ... its currently broken, so should probably pull out.
>
>   RC: I think we will have to branch again, remove stuff etc.
>   ... Level 2 would become Level 3
>
>   JM: Level 2 will have a lot of updates that Level 3 won't
>
>   RC: winding rules were implemented, path was implemented.
>   ... Ian has added a bunch of new stuff for adding texts that is
>   not clear right now, so it should be a level 3 thing
>   ... not sure we need anything new for a11y right now
>
>   <scribe> ACTION: MarkS to log bug on focus ring in FF [recorded
>   in
>   [11]http://www.w3.org/2014/05/19-html-a11y-minutes.html#action0
>   1]
>
>   <trackbot> Created ACTION-252 - Log bug on focus ring in ff [on
>   Mark Sadecki - due 2014-05-26].
>
> Next Meeting
>
>   JM: Rik, it would be helpful if we started a list of what
>   should stay in Level 2 and what should move to Level 3
>
>   MS: Sounds like a bigger problem since canvas is an extension
>   spec here and part of html5 at what wg
>
>   JM: there are technical problems with cherry picking
>   (overwriting our changes) but also no discussion on the
>   changes.
>   ... I like the idea of branching and then pick and choose what
>   gets brought in.
>
>   RC: take whats there now, branch it and clean it up.
>
>   MS: is this something we want to do by the Heartbeat?
>
>   JM: might be a good idea
>
>   MS: OK, I can start a wiki then and we can work on what stays
>   and goes there
>
>   <scribe> ACTION: MarkS to talk to HTML about the branching L2,
>   creating L3 and starting new canvas telecon [recorded in
>   [12]http://www.w3.org/2014/05/19-html-a11y-minutes.html#action0
>   2]
>
>   <trackbot> Created ACTION-253 - Talk to html about the
>   branching l2, creating l3 and starting new canvas telecon [on
>   Mark Sadecki - due 2014-05-26].
>
> Summary of Action Items
>
>   [NEW] ACTION: MarkS to log bug on focus ring in FF [recorded in
>   [13]http://www.w3.org/2014/05/19-html-a11y-minutes.html#action0
>   1]
>   [NEW] ACTION: MarkS to talk to HTML about the branching L2,
>   creating L3 and starting new canvas telecon [recorded in
>   [14]http://www.w3.org/2014/05/19-html-a11y-minutes.html#action0
>   2]
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>   [End of minutes]
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