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Re: Request to re-open issue 131

From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 22:25:14 -0500
Message-ID: <4EE2D11A.6030700@intertwingly.net>
To: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
CC: chuck@jumis.com, Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>, dbolter@mozilla.com, franko@microsoft.com, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, public-canvas-api@w3.org, public-html@w3.org, public-html-a11y@w3.org
On 12/09/2011 05:42 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
> I see Ian replaced the entire Canvas 2D API spec. without a formal proposal:
>
> http://dev.w3.org/html5/2dcontext/

Should a formal proposal not be forthcoming, and should you be able to 
obtain testimonials from at least two major implementors that that they 
would be willing to implement your proposal should it be adopted, then 
you have nothing to worry about.  If you need to modify your Change 
Proposal(s) in order to obtain these testimonials, you have the 
opportunity to do so.  We've not established a deadline yet for this, 
but the earliest deadline we would impose would be late January by this 
point.  It could possibly even be later.

> Could you please clarify how this is consistent with the HTML working
> groups decision policy or with the process you refer to below?

There exists a document in CVS with Ian's name on it with the following 
text prominently in the frontmatter:

     The publication of this document by the W3C as a W3C Working Draft
     does not imply that all of the participants in the W3C HTML working
     group endorse the contents of the specification. Indeed, for any
     section of the specification, one can usually find many members of
     the working group or of the W3C as a whole who object strongly to
     the current text, the existence of the section at all, or the idea
     that the working group should even spend time discussing the
     concept of that section.

If you would like to create a parallel document in CVS with your name on 
it and the same disclaimer, we will help you do that.  But I will state 
that there really is no need to do that.  Your Change Proposals are 
sufficient.

I already stated why the Chairs elected to take this action.  If you 
have a problem with this, I encourage you to take this up with PLH. 
Mike Smith will assist you in this effort should you decide to go this 
route.

Obviously, I would encourage you to focus on obtaining implementer 
testimonials instead of taking that path, but the choice is yours.

> I also noticed Ian went into numerous related defects and added requests
> for use cases, such as: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13578
>
> We have on numerous occasions provided information on things like
> providing the bounds of an object such as Frank Olivier presented at
> TPAC. Please refer to the use cases minuted at the TPAC discussion.

I'm pleased to see that things are progressing again.  As to Ian's 
request: since you state that the data is already publicly available, I 
encourage you to provide pointers to that data.

In any case, if for any reason these bugs aren't resolved to your 
satisfaction by December 31st 2011[1], you will have the opportunity to 
escalate the bugs and propose your own resolutions in the form of 
concrete Change Proposals.

> I am leaving for vacation in an hour and will be unavailable for mostly
> through the end of the year. I look forward to your reply.

Unfortunately, I wasn't around to respond within the hour.  Hopefully 
you will see this when you return.

> Best Regards,
> Rich

- Sam Ruby

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jun/0315.html
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