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heads-up: CANVAS sub-team will meet monday 2010-11-15 at 2000h UTC

From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:35:50 +0000
To: public-canvas-api@w3.org, public-html-a11y@w3.org
Message-Id: <20101111173522.M35280@hicom.net>
aloha!

this is a reminder that the canvas sub-team will be resuming its 
meetings on monday, 15 november 2010 at 2000h UTC -- meeting logistics 
can be found at:

http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Canvas/Meetings

a preview of what will be discussed can be found in the HTML TF
telecon minutes for 11 november 2010, in particular:

http://www.w3.org/2010/11/11-html-a11y-minutes.html#item10

excerpted below:

RS: re-starting monday calls for canvas to investigate rich text editing 
-- separated out reqs for using standard controls using APIs -- will 
address in change proposal
... plan: asked to create individual defects related to RTE -- what needs 
to be done as far as API changes to 2D context standard controls to 
define wwhich elements are allowable in canvas sub-tree -- 1st time that 
used shadow DOM to navigate but not render -- some issues need to be 
investigated about it -- what constitutes fallback and how to keep in 
sync
... Rich Text Editing -- will take a lot of time; need to ensure that what 
is in contenteditable section can be reflected in a CANVAS implementation 
-- can't do now -- those are the issues we are working on
... re-iterate PaulC's comment -- in mobile TV space, comment made "what 
would you need for a profile"? canvas + javascript would hit the "sweet 
spot" -- must address a11y in RTE because Canvas might be only UI one can 
see in complex apps

CS: frankO on board with that?

RS: yes
... which "that"?

CS: anything to do with RTE

RS: said need to define where gaps are -- didn't think could do by last call

PC: that is fair portrayal -- FrankO's warning was "this is not a trivial 
pursuit -- it will take a lot of effort"

JS: messages have to be clear -- enough complexity in proposed text
... questions?

MK: talked with FrankO -- inside canvas doubled testing effort -- 
concern: prevent double testing

RS: doubletesting of.... ?
... components not being rendered will double?

MK: yes, concern was that testing efforts have to be doubled because have 
2 diff contexts

RS: don't see how can reduce -- there is content now that is not being 
rendered -- going to be a lot of work

MK: so there will be some pain for everyone?

RS: yes -- trying to ensure that address all of the canvas issues -- spec 
allows shadow DOM -- in spec -- needs to be synced with what is in visual 
rendering

RS: next step: make sure that when have shadow DOM what is appropriate 
behavior of UA in HTML -- how to render IFrame in shadow DOM -- rendering 
issues -- is CSS allowed
... need to flesh out shadow DOM in HTML5 spec
Received on Thursday, 11 November 2010 17:36:18 GMT

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