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Re: FYI - "Mobile Web 2009 = Desktop Web 1998"

From: Luca Passani <passani@eunet.no>
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 10:52:07 +0100
Message-ID: <49B4E6C7.2020909@eunet.no>
To: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group WG <public-bpwg@w3.org>
Tom Hume wrote:
> Which operators have been involved in the compromises the Manifesto 
> incorporates, and which operators have agreed to abide by it?

As far as I know, as a minimum, the following operators have all 
carefully reviewed the Manifesto and either used it directly to create 
their internal requirements for transcoding or have modified their 
current deployment to abide by it in whole or in part:

O2, Vodacom, Sprint, Telecom Italia, Orange, T-Mobile, TeliaSonera, 
Vodafone.

In addition, I have had direct contacts with individual employees in two 
of these organizations and they did express their opinion about the 
Manifesto and the rules in it ("Luca, you could not be any more right 
than this on transcoders! Thank you for the Manifesto.").

I did try to get these operators to sign the Manifesto. This was 
escalated to higher levels, until they got to someone who did not see a 
commercial advantage for the operator to sign, and so they did not (a 
logical conclusion for an operator, I have to admit). But the Manifesto 
has had a huge impact in limiting the damage by abusively configured 
transcoders. This was confirmed by all three major transcoder vendors 
(officially in some cases, unofficially in others).

Of course, this is the tip of the iceberg, because a lot of this 
internal decisions has happened internally in the respective 
organizations, so we will probably never hear about it, but it did 
happen and the Manifesto played a huge role in it.

>
> I think it would be a good thing if there were some there, but last 
> time I checked there weren't.

Again, they are not signing because they do not have an incentive to 
sign. But this does not mean that they are not respecting it and that 
they are not listening to the developer community. They are.

Luca
Received on Monday, 9 March 2009 09:52:45 UTC

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