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RE: FYI - "Mobile Web 2009 = Desktop Web 1998"

From: Rotan Hanrahan <rotan.hanrahan@mobileaware.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:46:56 -0000
Message-ID: <D5306DC72D165F488F56A9E43F2045D301E4AF28@FTO.mobileaware.com>
To: "Yeliz Yesilada" <yesilady@cs.man.ac.uk>, <gina@alierra.com>
Cc: "MWI BPWG Public" <public-bpwg@w3.org>
> He doesn't talk about transformation at all which is a bit
disappointing.

As a provider of such solutions, I also find this disappointing.
Transformation (at the origin server) is a well established and highly
successful solution, and when you have access to contextual information
this is actually a recommended practice.

Intermediate transformation, while often lacking the author's guidance,
can sometimes makes things better for diverse clients. (It can sometimes
make things worse, especially from the author's point of view, but
that's a separate matter of getting all parties to agree to when the
technology should be used, and when it should not.)

With this we currently have Web for mobile, accessibility, automobiles
and yes, even refrigerators. :)

---Rotan

-----Original Message-----
From: public-bpwg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-bpwg-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Yeliz Yesilada
Sent: 05 March 2009 08:34
To: gina@alierra.com
Cc: MWI BPWG Public
Subject: Re: FYI - "Mobile Web 2009 = Desktop Web 1998"

Hi Gina,

I also agree with him about the problems listed. However, I always  
get worried when people suggest that a separate page is the best  
solution :( How many versions of a page do we need to create? One for  
each mobile class (or one for high-spec and one for low-spec), one  
for blind users, one for color-blind users, one for motor impaired  
users. What happens when the Web becomes even more ubiquitous, do we  
need to create one for the refrigerators :) He doesn't talk about  
transformation at all which is a bit disappointing.

Regards,
Yeliz.
On 4 Mar 2009, at 16:21, <gina@alierra.com> <gina@alierra.com> wrote:

> Hello Yeliz,
>
> Thank you very much for materials provided!
>
> I completely agree with Jakob Nielsen in all aspects mentioned,  
> except the one with scrolling. To my mind this problem now exists  
> only for Mobile Web, where users are used to work with a keyboard  
> (type sms, play games, etc.). So it is a common thing for them to  
> scroll. Anyway, I absolutely sure this problem will be solved in  
> early future.
>
> What do you think?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Gina Travis
> gina@alierra.com
> Alierra Design Company
> http://www.alierra.com
>
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