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[minutes] Thursday 18 December 2008

From: Francois Daoust <fd@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:06:51 +0100
Message-ID: <494A751B.4070306@w3.org>
To: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group WG <public-bpwg@w3.org>

Hi,

The minutes of today's call are available at:
  http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-bpwg-minutes.html

... and pasted as text below.


In short:
- we resolved to publish the latest version the Mobile Web Application 
Best Practices document as an updated draft.
- congratulations to the WCAG WG for the WCAG 2.0 Recommendation!
- no call next two weeks. Next call is on 8 January 2009.
- we've discussed the idea to merge CT calls with BPWG calls, which 
sounds a good thing to do at this stage. I'll prepare a poll in order to 
find the best solution logistic-wise to hold only one weekly call.


Francois.


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18 Dec 2008

    [2]Agenda

       [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Dec/0017.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-bpwg-irc

Attendees

    Present
           DKA, Francois, yeliz, achuter, dom

    Regrets
           abel, jeffs, jo, kai, manrique, miguel, rob, sangwhan

    Chair
           DKA

    Scribe
           DKA

Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]MWABP
          2. [6]WCAG 2.0
          3. [7]Next call
          4. [8]Merging CT calls and BPWG calls
          5. [9]Relationship of Mobile to Acc document
      * [10]Summary of Action Items
      _________________________________________________________

MWABP

    PROPOSE RESOLUTION: Request publication of a new draft of MWABP -
    the latest draft from Adam - today (prior to pub moriatorium).

    Dan: Francois, your thoughts?

    Francois: Yes I agree we should publish a new version. On SVG
    section some concerns but there is an editorial note so maybe not
    such a big deal.
    ... One of the SVG BPs is use svgt 1.1 - and that's restrictive time
    - so this is like defining an ADC.
    ... And the other BPs are applied to SVG...

    Dan: I agree more work needs to be done but on balance I think worth
    releasing a new draft now.
    ... Also - a lot of the issues that we've discussed with Adam have
    been addressed...
    ... Jo was also supportive of publication - though he had a lot of
    editorial comments that he planned to make.

    Yeliz: I had some comments on the previous version but adam
    addressed all of them already.

    Francois: Did Jo plan to send comments before publication?

    Dan: He thought it could wait.
    ... Any thoughts from Dom?

    PROPOSE RESOLUTION: Request publication of a new draft of MWABP -
    the latest draft from Adam - today (prior to pub moriatorium).

    +1

    <yeliz> +1

    <dom> +1

    <francois> +1

    <dom> [dom is so happy]

    <dom> [and that's not related at all to him being on vacation in one
    hour]

    RESOLUTION: Request publication of a new draft of MWABP - the latest
    draft from Adam - today (prior to pub moriatorium).

WCAG 2.0

    <achuter> Now that WCAG 2.0 is published, the WG should review the
    relationship document

    PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Congratulations to WCAG working group for
    publication of WCAG 2.0 as a Recommendation!

    <francois> +1

    +1

    RESOLUTION: Congratulations to WCAG working group for publication of
    WCAG 2.0 as a Recommendation!

    <dom> [and there was much rejoicing]

Next call

    PROPOSED RESOLUTION: no main working group calls until 8 Jan.

    <dom> +1

    <francois> +1

    +1

    <achuter> +1

    <yeliz> +1

    RESOLUTION: no main working group calls until 8 Jan.

Merging CT calls and BPWG calls

    Dan: When is the next CT call?

    Francois: 6 jan - propose to still hold it and then move the work to
    the main body of the wg after that.
    ... Dan suggested that we bring the CT task force back to he main
    body of the working group.
    ... So that we can consolidate the brains (to also work on MWABP)
    and so the main body of the working group can help the CT taskforce
    solve its remaining issues.

    Dom: So just 1 call?

    Francois: Yes.

    Dom: the only problem I could see is that it reduces the bandwidth
    on that document...

    <dom> "close to be done" - famous last words

    Francois: We are close to being done on CT tf...

    :)

    Francois: We created an issue on tuesday specifically because we
    wanted the advice of the working group as a whole - on links
    rewriting.

    Dom: Let's give it a try.

    [discussion of call times]

    <dom> (also, we have two invited experts that participate
    specifically to the TF - we would need to see if they can join the
    new time)

    Dom: Moving the call earlier could be problematic because we have
    another call at this time [2:00 UK on Thursday].

    Dan: Another option would be to just do the tuesday call...
    ... We need to put these options into a poll.
    ... We should make the combination of ct and bp-main the basis of
    the poll.

    Francois: OK - I will create a poll on this.

    Dom: Yes - we should plan to meet at the same time and date at least
    for the 1st week of jan.

    +1

    Francois: 3 choices in the poll -- on thursday at the same time; on
    thursday 1 hr earlier; on tuesday at time of current ct call

    Dan: Right.

    Dom: One issue is that the CT call is scheduled for 60...

    Dan: I think we need 90.
    ... We'll take a resolution on the call on the 8th of Jan as to what
    to do with the meeting schedules.

Relationship of Mobile to Acc document

    Francois: now that wcag 2.0 is published what's happening with
    "relationship" document?

    Yeliz: the plan was to publish it after wcag 2.0 becomes a rec. -
    but not sure when that will happen.

    Francois: At last f2f - Shawn mentioned that there was going to be a
    poll prior to publication of "recommendation" - so will there be an
    intermediary publication or will these documents have a final
    publication.

    Yeliz: My understanding was a final publication but not sure about
    time plan.
    ... I will talk to Shawn.

    Dan: I don't think it'll happen before moriatorium...

Summary of Action Items

    [End of minutes]
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