Re: Keynote Speaker(s)?

I'm also against keynotes. Agree with many views expressed here.

I support Trent's idea for short (5-7min) lightning talks. ideally not
about specific blockchains but about problems, needs for standardization,
potential cohesion, etc.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:35 PM Bailey Reutzel <baileyreutzel@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Doug--
>
> I still think you make a great point about having a speaker come in to get
> the conversation started, implant some interesting ideas, etc. Didn't
> someone suggest an academic?
>
> IMO, that would be better since they won't have stake in the game and
> there won't be a chance of them pushing a product, which is not what people
> want from this workshop.
>
> -B
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi, folks–
>>
>> I'm hearing a fairly consistent sentiment against keynotes. (What else
>> did I expect from a pack of Libertarians? :D) Assuming that y'all represent
>> a meaningful segment of blockchain folks, I'm now leaning against having a
>> keynote.
>>
>> I made the case for having a keynote, but I'm not yet hearing any strong
>> voices to reinforce the case for a keynote speaker.
>>
>> So, if you do want a keynote speaker, speak now or forever hold your
>> peace.
>>
>> I don't know if folks like Stefan or Arvind will still be motivated to
>> attend if they aren't giving a keynote, but let's hope.
>>
>> Regards–
>> Doug
>>
>> On 5/12/16 11:25 AM, Ryan Shea wrote:
>>
>>> I vote no on the keynote as well.
>>>
>>> I'd be concerned about a bias or slant towards one particular technology
>>> or platform like Ripple. Combine that with the fact that the industry is
>>> so young and we're essentially all peers here.
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Rick Dudley <afd@erisindustries.com
>>> <mailto:afd@erisindustries.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     I don't want a keynote. I want to make progress deploying
>>>     decentralization technology into browsers. If he wants to have
>>>     discussion about using standards bodies to develop technology,
>>>     great. I don't want to hear about much else.
>>>
>>>     Everyone who replied is on the blockchain side of things, I much
>>>     rather have a keynote from someone who got some code into production
>>>     browsers as an outsider.
>>>
>>>     Maybe someone from Brave would be interested in joining us?
>>>
>>>     -Rick
>>>
>>>     On May 12, 2016 10:39 AM, "Neha Narula" <narula@csail.mit.edu
>>>     <mailto:narula@csail.mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         I'm OK with no keynotes, but I'd like to throw out another,
>>>         academic option.  Arvind Narayanan, a professor in computer
>>>         science at Princeton:
>>>
>>>         http://randomwalker.info/
>>>
>>>         Arvind has done a ton of research in this space and actually
>>>         wrote a textbook on Bitcoin.  I've heard him speak (most
>>>         recently at the MIT Bitcoin expo, link
>>>         here: https://youtu.be/UVuUZm4l-ss?t=14155) and he's an
>>>         excellent speaker.  He can address high-level overviews and
>>>         broader themes while still incorporating interesting technical
>>>         content.
>>>
>>>         On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 5:19 AM, Trent McConaghy
>>>         <gtrent@gmail.com <mailto:gtrent@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Agree with Gavin, Chris and others - I prefer no keynotes as
>>>             well. Better "participatory and collaborative atmosphere"..
>>>
>>>             Lightning talks ok, but only if a fraction of the time, and
>>>             if there are better scene-setting mechanisms, all the better.
>>>
>>>             It would be helpful to have Stefan be part of the workshop
>>>             though - he's good, and as Bailey mentioned is doing going
>>>             through the W3C process with Interledger. Also his
>>>             Interledger colleague, Evan Schwartz, is appropriate.
>>>
>>>             On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Gavin Wood
>>>             <gavin@ethcore.io <mailto:gavin@ethcore.io>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                 I'm also inclined to stay away from keynotes and the
>>>                 like. I feel that the chances of engendering
>>>                 a participatory and collaborative atmosphere can be
>>>                 maximised by avoiding the elevation of any
>>>                 particular participants, even for a well-meaning purpose
>>>                 such as "getting everyone on the same page". Rather I
>>>                 would look for means to structure and define the events
>>>                 content and aims well enough beforehand to render any
>>>                 kind of "scene setting" largely redundant.
>>>
>>>
>>>                 On Thursday, 12 May 2016, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org
>>>                 <mailto:schepers@w3.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                     Hi, Christopher–
>>>
>>>                     I hear you that your preference is for an entirely
>>>                     participatory event.
>>>                     I'm less convinced than you, at this point, that
>>>                     everyone is on the same
>>>                     page.
>>>
>>>                     Having a thoughtful speaker can set a tone and
>>>                     context, and raise great
>>>                     questions that are discussed at the rest of the
>>>                     workshop.
>>>
>>>                     At W3C's recent Advisory Committee meeting, Bruce
>>>                     Schneier spoke on
>>>                     security and the "techno-social process" of
>>>                     standards and law, and it
>>>                     was the highlight of the event, prompting a lot of
>>>                     useful discussion.
>>>
>>>                     A good keynote speaker can also attract attendees,
>>>                     who might feel more
>>>                     incentive to attend for a chance to listen to and
>>>                     interact with the
>>>                     speakers.
>>>
>>>                     More replies inline…
>>>
>>>                     On 5/11/16 7:58 PM, Christopher Allen wrote:
>>>
>>>                         There are a side variety of formats possible.
>>>                         Just a few that I’ve
>>>                         used:
>>>
>>>                         * Open Space
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology
>>>
>>>
>>>                     I'm open to looser agendas, but I am nervous about
>>>                     having a productive
>>>                     set of discussions if there's no general set of
>>>                     topics or agenda; I can
>>>                     see it descending quickly into rat-holing.
>>>
>>>                     There are also people who won't attend open-agenda
>>>                     workshops because
>>>                     there is less assurance of some ROI outcome. If we
>>>                     want to attract the
>>>                     right people, do you think an open agenda will be
>>>                     the best way to
>>>                     accomplish that? This isn't a rhetorical question… I
>>>                     don't know the
>>>                     blockchain community well enough to judge.
>>>
>>>                     (I've anecdotally heard from Asian colleagues that
>>>                     agenda-less meetings
>>>                     are sometimes not well-received in their cultures.)
>>>
>>>
>>>                         * World Cafe http://www.theworldcafe.com/ or my
>>>                         closely related
>>>                         Braid (does more mixing)
>>>
>>> http://www.lifewithalacrity.com/2009/09/facilitating-small-gatherings-using-the-braid.html
>>>
>>>
>>>                     This
>>>
>>>
>>>                     sounds interesting, but also a bit complicated to
>>>                     manage with a
>>>                     large number of people.
>>>
>>>                     My own thought was that we'd break out into
>>>                     voluntary topic tables,
>>>                     where people wander in and out unconference-style,
>>>                     and as topic petered
>>>                     out or built up, we'd discover which topics garnered
>>>                     the most interest.
>>>
>>>
>>>                         * Design Workshop (example of the last one I ran
>>>
>>> https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rebooting-the-web-of-trust/blob/master/event-documents/process/RebootingtheWebOfTrustProcess.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>                     )
>>>
>>>                     This also seems a bit complicated and gamified, to
>>>                     me. I'm somewhat
>>>                     skeptical of "new system" meetings where everyone
>>>                     has to learn the rules
>>>                     on the fly, which seems to inhibit natural
>>>                     conversation flows; they seem
>>>                     to be more about the process than the discussion.
>>>                     But I haven't
>>>                     experienced this particular variation, and maybe
>>>                     it's really effective.
>>>
>>>
>>>                         * Lightning Talks (truly 5 minutes talk and 5
>>>                         minutes Q&A) for a
>>>                         half-day, then election from those for further
>>>                         discussion for rest
>>>                         of day. Repeat 2nd day.
>>>
>>>
>>>                     This is more or less what I had in mind.
>>>
>>>
>>>                         * Poster Sessions
>>>                         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poster_session
>>>
>>>
>>>                     No enough group conversation for my taste.
>>>
>>>
>>>                         * and there any more…
>>>
>>>
>>>                     Yes, many many more. I prefer to keep the rules
>>>                     simple, and maximize the
>>>                     group discussion opportunities.
>>>
>>>
>>>                         Another option is that one of the best graphic
>>>                         facilitators in the
>>>                         world resides in Boston, and we could retain her
>>>                         for $3500 and use
>>>                         whatever process she recommends.
>>>
>>>
>>>                     I like this idea, and I'd like to have the drawings
>>>                     for later
>>>                     documentation and spreading the word about the event.
>>>
>>>                     It would work well for plenary sessions; I'm not
>>>                     sure how it scales to
>>>                     multiple parallel groups discussing different topics.
>>>
>>>                     Also, we don't currently have the budget for this.
>>>                     I'd be even more open
>>>                     to it if we had more sponsors.
>>>
>>>
>>>                         The key point is that the knowledge is in the
>>>                         room, and parallel
>>>                         processes with smaller groups are more likely to
>>>                         emerge with choices
>>>                         for the larger group to explore.
>>>
>>>
>>>                     We agree there.
>>>
>>>
>>>                         Sage on the stage and other serial processes
>>>                         waste energy.
>>>
>>>
>>>                     I'm not convinced that's universally true.
>>>
>>>                     (I'm also skeptical of pithy slogans, like "sage on
>>>                     the stage". :P)
>>>
>>>
>>>                     But I don't want to dictate what format this
>>>                     workshop uses… I am open to conversation about it,
>>>                     making sure that we hear from a large number of
>>>                     people on the PC what they think will be most
>>>                     effective. I do want to settle on format fairly
>>>                     quickly, because it's a topic that can balloon to
>>>                     fill all available conversation time.
>>>
>>>                     How should we decide on format, in an efficient way?
>>>
>>>                     Regards–
>>>                     Doug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                 --
>>>
>>>
>>>                         Dr. Gavin Wood   Director, Ethcore
>>>                 email: gavin@ethcore.io <mailto:gavin@ethcore.io>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
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