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Re: Diagram of it all

From: Nathan <nathan@webr3.org>
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 12:07:56 +0000
Message-ID: <4D72279C.5020107@webr3.org>
To: Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>
CC: AWWSW TF <public-awwsw@w3.org>, David Booth <david@dbooth.org>, Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>
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what you say, seems to contradict the above messages - and, I'm quite 
sure is unprovable, a poem certainly doesn't have a <p> and a <br> and 
<html> as part of it's content, likewise every document, book, well 
everything of any use really.

Jonathan Rees wrote:
> Did you spot the contradiction, in one of your diagrams, to my axioms?
> In my little world, if a resource has only one representation, then
> much of what you say about the representation has to also be true of
> the resource - for example, whether its content contains the letter
> 'x'. This rules out the resource being an RDF graph, and the
> representation being a serialization of it, since for any
> serialization, there are almost certainly characters that occur in it,
> but not in the graph.  (You could probably carefully construct a graph
> and a serialization of it that contained the same letters, but then I
> would pick a different metadata property, and go through the argument
> again.)
> 
> This shows that TimBL's intuition that RDF graphs mustn't be
> information resources follows logically from a strong stance on
> metadata generation and interpretation. Without a connection as strong
> as this, I'm not sure that the httpRange-14 rule is worth the trouble,
> since theories weaker than this have no "teeth" and are not good for
> much.  I wish I were wrong, but I don't think I am.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Nathan <nathan@webr3.org> wrote:
>> inspired by jonathan's last diagram - attached, and uploaded here:
>>
>>   http://i.imgur.com/gzIf0.jpg
>>
> 
> 
> 
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