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Re: Candidate message to TAG re httpRange-14 resolution

From: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 12:52:02 -0000 (GMT)
Message-ID: <4e0fac48dbb645b3a5533622e23187be.squirrel@webmail-mit.w3.org>
To: "Jonathan Rees" <jar@creativecommons.org>
Cc: "Pat Hayes" <phayes@ihmc.us>, "AWWSW TF" <public-awwsw@w3.org>, "David Booth" <david@dbooth.org>
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us> wrote:
>> Jonathan makes an important claim in the center of his case:
>>
>> "...  because most useful
>>>
>>> predicates are either defined only on information resources or
>>> undefined on information resources.  "
>>
>> I wish (and once believed) that this were true, but unfortunately it is
>> not. The most obvious example is simply a date of creation, which can
>> apply both to a material thing (eg a date of birth) and to an
>> information resource (eg a birth certificate.)
>>
>> OK, he does say 'most', but the point is that there are some important
>> ones that this is not true of, and this is enough to rather damage the
>> case for tolerating the ambiguity.
>
> Completely agree.  I was looking for a way to acknowledge the
> existence of the argument without agreeing with it, and didn't do a
> good job. Shall I just not mention it?

I mean, if someone is going to make ambiguous statements, we can't stop
them. The sensible thing to do here is to encourage people to use less
ambiguous statements with clearer intentions, i.e. a "birthDate" vs
"documentCreation" predicate.

>
> Jonathan
>
>> Pat Hayes
>>
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 8:27 PM, David Booth wrote:
>>
>>>> r because most useful
>>>> predicates are either defined only on information resources or
>>>> undefined on information resources.
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