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Re: Are generic resources intentional?

From: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:30:32 -0500
Cc: Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>, AWWSW TF <public-awwsw@w3.org>
Message-Id: <6024AC7B-9FD2-4B89-82C3-4B5E01769E09@ihmc.us>
To: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson)

On May 29, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Henry S. Thompson wrote:

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> [jumping in after a long absence, apologies if I misunderstand any of
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> 'artefact' is not enough:  the house my sister built herself last year
> is eminently artefactual, but it's not a GR.

My, er, intent was that this is a necessary, not sufficient,  
condition. I don't think we need a sufficient condition for anything  
on the Web that can't be stated in terms of XXTP responses and codes.

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> 'intent' is not enough either: my sister was full of intent, the
> intent was to build that house and she built that house as the object
> of her intention and directly as a result of that intent.
>
> But (and here I come back close to my previously-stated conviction
> that FRBR has a crucial role to play in resolving this question),
> perhaps "intent to communicate" _is_ sufficient. . .

Nope. I have myself put up websites that people have asked me to,  
without the slightest intent, myself, to communicate with anyone. In  
fact, without any intent than to satisfy the customer who is paying  
me. But it was me that put it there, no doubt about that (which wass  
WHY they paid me, in fact.)

Pat

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