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Re: AWWSW telecon, Tues May 26

From: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 00:29:32 +0200
Message-ID: <b3be92a00905231529o213d478as47eab5880ff4dc05@mail.gmail.com>
To: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
Cc: Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>, AWWSW TF <public-awwsw@w3.org>
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Michael Hausenblas
<michael.hausenblas@deri.org> wrote:
>
> Jonathan,
>
>> Michael, you're still on for organizing the next meeting, yes?
>
> Yes, as agreed last week. Usually I'd send out the agenda a day before it,
> but, ok, I guess we are already right into it ;)
>
>> We could talk about the message I sent out about generic resources
>> (which oddly no one has replied to in spite of its attempt to be
>> provocative - I guess it was too long), or do something else.
>
> I guess you're referring to [1], right?
>
> Yes, very comprehensive and I think I have tor read it more carefully again
> before I'm able even to ask a sensible question. Two suggestions for future
> elaborations: how about including a one-sentence summary at the beginning
> for those who wish to follow but don't have the time to read the entire post
> and additionally, how about using real world resources and scenarios
> (concrete examples, etc.)?
>
> For the agenda, yes, I'd propose to first discuss your post [1] and then
> (time given) start with the GenOnt/HTTP-in-RDF grounding.

I'd like to see the agenda continue in this fashion, but do note that
the OWL-DL IRW (Identity and Reference on the Web) ontology made by
Valentina Presutti and myself is finally maturing as a fairly sensible
ontology, at least when we present it. Slides here [1], paper here
[2], and ontology here [3].

While we deploy the reverse methodology of the AWWSW (We look
primarily at AWWW and then model in a "top-down" fashion, rather than
trying to model each spec and then build a "bottom-up" ontology), it
appears that the work of AWWSW and this ontology may be coinciding.
Next week myself and Valentina will try to go through the AWWSW
vocabulary page and see if we can figure out the "diff" between that
and IRW. This could let the AWWSW shortcut some work, if we agree on
things, on getting an OWL-DL ontology for resources off the ground,
and myself and Valentina would like to collaborate and would be happy
to change ontology as needed. It seemed to get pretty good reviews
from TimBL at WWW2009.

I'd be happy to present it at the next AWWSW after this one. However,
I'd like to hear about GenOnt and generic resoures in general. Once
that is done, I'd be happy to

[1]http://www.ibiblio.org/hhalpin/homepage/notes/valentina.pdf
[2]http://www.ibiblio.org/hhalpin/homepage/notes/eswc2009.pdf
[3]http://purl.org/NET/irw/

> Cheers,
>      Michael
>
> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-awwsw/2009May/0006.html
>
> --
> Dr. Michael Hausenblas
> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute
> National University of Ireland, Lower Dangan,
> Galway, Ireland, Europe
> Tel. +353 91 495730
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>
>
>> From: Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>
>> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 08:34:05 -0400
>> To: AWWSW TF <public-awwsw@w3.org>
>> Subject: AWWSW telecon, Tues May 26
>> Resent-From: AWWSW TF <public-awwsw@w3.org>
>> Resent-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 12:34:43 +0000
>>
>> Michael, you're still on for organizing the next meeting, yes?
>>
>> We could talk about the message I sent out about generic resources
>> (which oddly no one has replied to in spite of its attempt to be
>> provocative - I guess it was too long), or do something else.
>>
>
>
>
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