Re: Update：Advancing Web Platform Applications Testing Community Group

Hello all,

We are holding AWPAT breakout session in TPAC F2F meeting, room 1.08, from
2:00 ~ 3:00 PM.

Welcome to join us!

Kind Regards
Kepeng

鍙戜欢浜:  "鍒樺ぇ楣(楣忔垚)" <max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com>
绛斿:  "鍒樺ぇ楣(楣忔垚)" <max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com>
鏃ユ湡:  Thursday, 8 September, 2016 4:09 pm
鑷:  Xiaoqian Wu <xiaoqian@w3.org>
鎶勯:  public-awpat <public-awpat@w3.org>, mike <mike@w3.org>, 鑼辨淮
<hongru.zhr@alibaba-inc.com>, Li Kepeng <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>, Qing
An <anqing.aq@alibaba-inc.com>, "寮犲織寮(瑷鍠)"
<yanshan.zzq@alibaba-inc.com>, Chaals McCathie Nevile
<chaals@yandex-team.ru>
涓婚:  Re: Update锛欰dvancing Web Platform Applications Testing Community
Group
閲嶅彂鍙戜欢浜:  <public-awpat@w3.org>
閲嶅彂鏃ユ湡:  Thu, 08 Sep 2016 08:09:49 +0000

Hi Xiaoqian,

Thanks for sharing this information. We will consider to join the session
there.

Thanks,
Max
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> From:Xiaoqian Wu <xiaoqian@w3.org>
> Send Time:2016骞9鏈8鏃(鏄熸湡鍥) 13:42
> To:鍒樺ぇ楣(楣忔垚) <max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com>
> Cc:public-awpat <public-awpat@w3.org>; mike <mike@w3.org>; 鏈辩孩鍎(鑼辨淮)
> <hongru.zhr@alibaba-inc.com>; 鏉庡厠楣(鏄撴繁) <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>; 瀹夊媿(鑾抽)
> <anqing.aq@alibaba-inc.com>; 寮犲織寮(瑷鍠) <yanshan.zzq@alibaba-inc.com>; Chaals
> McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
> Subject:Re: Update锛欰dvancing Web Platform Applications Testing Community
> Group
> 
> Hi Dapeng, and all,
> 
> Some of the web-platform-test folks decided to host a 2-day testing session[1]
> during TPAC, please feel free to add your interested topics in the agenda.
> Joining the discussion on IRC is always welcome.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -xiaoqian
> 
> [1] https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC2016/WebPlatformTests
> 
> On 7 Sep 2016, at 9:02 PM, chaals@yandex-team.ru wrote:
> 
> Hi Max, all,
>  
> looks good to me. To get onto the mailing list, you join the CG at it's
> w3.org/community/awpat <http://w3.org/community/awpat>  page...
>  
> cheers
>  
> 07.09.2016, 14:16, "鍒樺ぇ楣(楣忔垚)" <max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com>:
> Hi all,
>  
> We have developed a website to host this project:
> https://w3c-awpat.alibaba.com/
>  
>  @Chaals, could you help to review and provide feedback?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Regards,
> Max
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> From:鍒樺ぇ楣(楣忔垚) <max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com>
> Send Time:2016骞8鏈30鏃(鏄熸湡浜) 23:19
> To:public-awpat <public-awpat@w3.org>; chaals <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
> Cc:mike <mike@w3.org>; Xiaoqian Wu <xiaoqian@w3.org>; 鏈辩孩鍎(鑼辨淮)
> <hongru.zhr@alibaba-inc.com>; 鏉庡厠楣(鏄撴繁) <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>; 瀹夊媿(鑾抽)
> <anqing.aq@alibaba-inc.com>; 寮犲織寮(瑷鍠) <yanshan.zzq@alibaba-inc.com>
> Subject:Re: Update锛欰dvancing Web Platform Applications Testing Community Group
>  
> Hi Chaals,
>  
> Thanks for the clarificatioin.  It is a useful feature and we will work on
> that soon.
>  
> Regards,
> Max
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> From:chaals <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
> Send Time:2016骞8鏈29鏃(鏄熸湡涓) 18:16
> To:鍒樺ぇ楣(楣忔垚) <max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com>; public-awpat <public-awpat@w3.org>
> Cc:mike <mike@w3.org>; Xiaoqian Wu <xiaoqian@w3.org>; 鏈辩孩鍎(鑼辨淮)
> <hongru.zhr@alibaba-inc.com>; 鏉庡厠楣(鏄撴繁) <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>; 瀹夊媿(鑾抽)
> <anqing.aq@alibaba-inc.com>; 寮犲織寮(瑷鍠) <yanshan.zzq@alibaba-inc.com>
> Subject:Re: Update锛欰dvancing Web Platform Applications Testing Community Group
>  
> Hi all..
>  
> Max, thank you for the update.
>  
> 25.08.2016, 09:32, "鍒樺ぇ楣(楣忔垚)" <max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com>:
>  
> 
> 1.       Extension
> <https://github.com/maxpassion/wpt-tools/tree/spec-version-testcases>  to
> wpt-tools of 鈥渢est the web forward鈥 project, which can show the specification
> version of each test case (Done)
>  
> 
> Next Step:
> 1.       Add <last spec>, indicating the latest spec version of each test case
> - Proposed by Chaals, @Chaals, would you like to expain more about the
> rational?
>  
> 
>  
> This is related to 1.3 below, as well.
>  
> Currently the tool can run tests for a version of the spec by looking for test
> cases that say they support e.g. HTML 5.0
>  
> The problem is that in reality spec features are common at minimum to a series
> of specs. For example, there is no realistic version number to *begin* testing
> a list - and in all probability, there will be no end version, either.
>  
> But let's imagine we want to test a feature like appcache, which is in HTML
> 5.0 only. We can use the current meta tag approach, and say the spec_version
> is html5.0
>  
> What about keygen? This is in HTML 5.0 and HTML 5.1, but not in HTML 5.2 and
> not expected to come back. being able to have "first version" and "last
> version" metadata means that any time we were running tests for stuff in HTML
> 5.1, or 5.0, we could test the things that use keygen.
>  
> To take a more complicated example. accesskey="a b" is valid HTML 5.0, but
> invalid in HTML 4, in HTML 5.1, currently in HTML 5.2 - and won't be valid
> again until implementations change. If it does get implemented, it might well
> be in e.g. HTML 5.3 and many versions afterward. So how should we mark tests
> that use this feature?
>  
> My first approach to this is to use a "first version" and "last version"
> marker for tests. This makes it fairly simple to collect things for e.g. HTML
> 4, 5.0, 5.1, 5.2 ... so it seems worthwhile. Let's see if it covers useful
> cases.
>  
> cheers
>  
> Chaals
>  
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Advancing Web Platform Applications Testing Community Group
>  
> 
> Time: Wednesday, June 1, 2016
>   4:00 pm  |  China Time  |
>   10:00 am |  Spain Time  |
>  
> 
> Attendees: 
> Chaals McCathie Nevile, Mike Smith, Xiaoqian Wu, Dapeng Liu, Hucai Duan, Peng
> Li
>  
> 
> Minutes:
> 1. Discussion on the extension to 鈥渢est the web forward鈥 project, which can
> show the specification version of the test.
> 1.1. Suggest maintaining a public website, that anyone can use, evaluate the
> work being done and how useful it might be. Provide Demos, use cases,
> documents etc.
> 1.2. This extension should support multiple spec version numbers for one test
> case, since this would be the most common case.
> 1.3. Validator may be used to determine the spec version of each test case.
> 1.4. Setting up virtual team, milestone for the project.  Inviting more
> contributors to join the work.
>  
> 
> 2. Discussion on the idea of 鈥渃ollecting test cases from real world apps鈥
> 2.1. Next Step: Find a way to efficiently collect the failures test cases from
> real world production.
>  
> Thanks,
> Best Regards,
> Dapeng Liu
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> From:鍒樺ぇ楣(楣忔垚) <max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com>
> Send Time:2016骞6鏈1鏃(鏄熸湡涓) 15:54
> To:Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>; Xiaoqian Wu
> <xiaoqian@w3.org>
> Cc:public-awpat <public-awpat@w3.org>
> Subject:Re: Teleconference锛欰dvancing Web Platform Applications Testing
> Community Group
>  
> Hello all,
>  
> We have an IRC channel: AWPAT
>  
> Welcome to join.
>  
> Thanks,
> Dapeng Liu
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> From:鍒樺ぇ楣(楣忔垚) <max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com>
> Send Time:2016骞5鏈31鏃(鏄熸湡浜) 23:13
> To:Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>; Xiaoqian Wu
> <xiaoqian@w3.org>
> Cc:public-awpat <public-awpat@w3.org>
> Subject:鍥炲锛歍eleconference锛欰dvancing Web Platform Applications Testing
> Community Group
>  
> Hi Xiaoqian,
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Dapeng Liu
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> 鍙戜欢浜猴細Xiaoqian Wu <xiaoqian@w3.org>
> 鍙戦佹椂闂达細2016骞5鏈31鏃(鏄熸湡浜) 22:00
> 鏀朵欢浜猴細鍒樺ぇ楣(楣忔垚) <max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com>; Chaals McCathie Nevile
> <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
> 鎶 閫侊細public-awpat <public-awpat@w3.org>
> 涓 棰橈細Re: Teleconference锛欰dvancing Web Platform Applications Testing Community
> Group
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> W3C is pleased to provide WebEx support for this call, please dial in via -
>  
> Advancing Web Platform Applications Testing CG Meeting
> Wednesday, June 1, 2016
> 4:00 pm  |  China Time  |  2 hrs
> 10:00 am  |  Spain Time  |  2 hrs
>  
> Join WebEx meeting
> Meeting number: 640 448 995
> Meeting password: awpat
> Connect to WebEx:
> https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=mebe46e8579abdaa8ca3c55838b069b98
>  
> Join by phone
> +1-617-324-0000 US Toll Number
> Access code: 640 448 995
> Mobile Auto Dial:+1-617-324-0000,,,640448995#
>  
> Add this meeting to your calendar:
> https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=meff0e902f1eeafde5434b96e69befcda
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> -xiaoqian
>  
> On 30 May 2016, at 3:55 PM, 鍒樺ぇ楣(楣忔垚) <max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com> wrote:
>  
> Hello all,
>  
> According to the doodle, let us have the teleconference at: Wednesday 4:00 PM
> 鈥 6:00 PM (UTC+8)
>  
>  
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>  
>  
> Thanks,
> Dapeng Liu
>  
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> 鍙戜欢浜猴細鍒樺ぇ楣(楣忔垚) <max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com>
> 鍙戦佹椂闂达細2016骞5鏈25鏃(鏄熸湡涓) 21:05
> 鏀朵欢浜猴細public-awpat <public-awpat@w3.org>
> 鎶 閫侊細Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>; kuangxiaoxuan
> <kuangxiaoxuan@caict.ac.cn>; 鏈辩孩鍎(鑼辨淮) <hongru.zhr@alibaba-inc.com>; 鏉庡厠楣(鏄撴繁)
> <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>
> 涓 棰橈細Progress update of the Advancing Web Platform Applications Testing
> Community Group
>  
> Hello all,
>  
> Here is some recent update of the test CG :
>  
>  
> 1. We have finished the initial version of the code to extend the "test the
> web forward project" as planned.
>  
>  
> 2. Here is some output of the test with "spec version" column in the test
> result page: 
>     We can also make further enhancement, for example: to make a selection box
> to enable the user to select the test suite's spec version and enable/disable
> this feature etc.
>  
>     For the next step, we will work with the "test the web forward" project to
> review the code and merge the extension to the project.
>  
>  
> <temp4cj.png>
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 3.  What is next:
>  We have good progress of the planned work item 1, and it is time to discuss
> the remaining ideas (work item 2).
>  Let us have a  teleconference to discuss this next week.
>  
> Please select your preferred time slot before the weekend:
>  http://doodle.com/poll/gwqms26f8t2xu2ck
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Thanks,
> Best Regards,
> Dapeng Liu
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 鍙戜欢浜猴細鍒樺ぇ楣(楣忔垚) <max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com>
> 鍙戦佹椂闂达細2015骞11鏈25鏃(鏄熸湡涓) 18:34
> 鏀朵欢浜猴細public-awpat <public-awpat@w3.org>
> 鎶 閫侊細Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>; kuangxiaoxuan
> <kuangxiaoxuan@caict.ac.cn>; 鏈辩孩鍎(鑼辨淮) <hongru.zhr@alibaba-inc.com>; 鏉庡厠楣(鏄撴繁)
> <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>
> 涓 棰橈細绛斿锛歐elcome to Advancing Web Platform Applications Testing Community Group
>  
> Hello all,
>  
> I have some initial proposals to trigger the discussion.
> 
>  
> There already have an open source 鈥渢est the web forward project鈥:
> http://testthewebforward.org/.
> 
>  
> My thought is to discuss the ideas to enhance this project in this community
> group, instead of starting a new one. If we can have some concrete idea, then
> we should contribute code to the test project.
> 
>  
> 
> The enhancement idea we have now:
> 
> 1. Write a manifest file that can differentiate the test cases for the stable
> features of H5 and  the features that are still under discussion. Then
> contribute it to the testthewebforward project.  A GUI menu that allows the
> user to select which feature group is going to be used in the test could also
> be useful. 
> 
> 2. Find the cases where things that people want to put together in a
> real-world app that don't  work. This community group would collect code from
> their real apps, identify problems, and use that information to narrow the
> problem down until we can create a specific test - which we should  contribute
> to testthewebforward project.
> 
>  
> Any comment and other idea?
>  
> Thanks,
> Regards,
> Dapeng Liu
> Alibaba Group
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> 鍙戜欢浜猴細鏉庡厠楣(鏄撴繁) <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>
> 鍙戦佹椂闂达細2015骞11鏈25鏃(鏄熸湡涓) 17:50
> 鏀朵欢浜猴細public-awpat <public-awpat@w3.org>
> 鎶 閫侊細Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>锛宬uangxiaoxuan
> <kuangxiaoxuan@caict.ac.cn>锛屽垬澶ч箯(楣忔垚) <max.ldp@alibaba-inc.com>锛屾湵绾㈠剴(鑼辨淮)
> <hongru.zhr@alibaba-inc.com>
> 涓 棰橈細Welcome to Advancing Web Platform Applications Testing Community Group
>  
> Hello all:
>  
> Welcome to join the AWPAT (Advancing Web Platform Applications Testing)
> Community Group.
>  
> In W3C TPAC F2F meeting, we had a breakout session about HTML5 testing, and as
> a outcome, this AWPAT Community Group was created.
>  
> This community develops test cases, requirements for testing and using the web
> platform. It works with existing communities and to enhance them, not replace
> them.
>  
> Please find some useful logistric information about this CG below:
> 1. Main page: https://www.w3.org/community/awpat/
> 2. Mailing list: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-awpat/
> 3. How to join: https://www.w3.org/community/awpat/join
> 4. Chairs: Charles McCathie Nevile (Yandex), Kepeng Li(Alibaba), Xiaoxuan
> Kuang (RITT)
> 5. Conference Calls: Bi-weekly or monthly, depending on our progress and
> requirement
> 6. Wiki Page: To be created
>  
> We would like to welcome any ideas related to this topic.
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Kind Regards
>  
> Kepeng Li
> Alibaba Group
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> Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex
> chaals@yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at http://yandex.com
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