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Re: "Factory-style" AudioWorker spec proposal

From: Joseph Berkovitz <joe@noteflight.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:58:43 -0500
Cc: Audio Working Group <public-audio@w3.org>
Message-Id: <4E72AD5C-7DA2-4FC3-83D0-956B213C9C0F@noteflight.com>
To: Chris Wilson <cwilso@google.com>

Thanks for responding so quickly, Iím really happy to have your feedback on this!

On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Chris Wilson <cwilso@google.com> wrote:

> Fine work.  A few off-the-cuff comments.
> I had been expecting we will need to do a side-by-side non-factory audio worker and a factory-based one (i.e. this shouldn't replace the AudioWorker I've been spec'ing - it should go alongside.)  This is mostly because you cannot replicate the current API's behavior with this factory proposal[1] (but also the additional complexity).  This obviously would mean the names could not be shared in quite this way.
> I like the packaging into a single worker script - always did.  I only didn't do it that way because of [1].

Yes, I read your earlier remarks on preferring the simpler packaging, but I didnít notice your referencing [1] in that argument ó I thought your original argument was more because of the need to immediately surface the AudioParams surfaced right after the creation of the node (not the creation of the context).  My proposal does address that, but where it falls down is in requiring a promise to complete in between creating the AudioContext and creating nodes from it.  I guess these may feel like the same underlying issue to you.

Another approach is that one could always use a factory, but let it create nodes (promise-free) even before its script has loaded. In which case, yeah, configuration has to go outside the script. I would easily relent on the configuration-packaging issue if it winds up making these two approaches more similar or even identical.

> The method name should NOT be "createAudioWorker", because it doesn't create and return an object named "AudioWorkerNode" (pattern we've established across the API).  I would suggest this should be "loadAudioWorker" or, preferably, "loadAudioWorkerFactory".  (particularly because the AudioWorker classes can't be shared, due to my first point.
Sure, I totally agree (and agonized over this somewhat). Iíd rather call the interface itself AudioWorkerFactory, actually.
> I'm not sure why you changed "bits" to be a hard-defined number in the bitCrusher example, but it should really be a Param - otherwise it's not a particularly real-world.  I think you were just trying to give a Transferable example - but I was confused the "var bitsArray = e.parameters.bits;" part - is this a leftover?  Regardless, "bits" as a Param is a key feature of what a user would want from a bit crusher.
I agree itís not very real world. And yes, I forgot to take out the bitsArray assignment from the parameters. I kind of rushed this one :-)

Maybe Iíll just make bits into a Param and let the VU example carry the weight on TransferablesÖ and read on...
> I'd rather not have an addition Transferable opportunity unless there's a strong demand; it seems more confusing (we'd have to offer guidance on when to use that Transferable vs postMessage vs AudioParam).

I think Iíve already changed my mind about that too, and now agree with you.

Holding off on changes till more comments surface...

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