Re: [Agenda] Audio WG Teleconference, 22 August

Hi group,

Here is a slightly more detailed agenda for our teleconference. 
See you on the bridge in 20 minutes.


On the Agenda:
  Agenda+ Renaming interfaces
  Agenda+ Remaming noteOn/noteOff to start/stop or play/stop
  Agenda+ Renaming setTargetValueAtTime (and other AudioParam methods)
  Agenda+ Naming consistency for Create methods
  Agenda+ Teleconference schedule

Time permitting:
  Agenda+ Renaming JavaScriptAudioNode
  Agenda+ Revisiting the circular graph issue

Probably later:
  Agenda+ MIDI API naming




** Topic: Renaming interfaces

The main issue is to balance the desire for interface names that make sense (should ideally be self explanatory and consistent with the rest of the spec).
We have discussed this a little bit at a teleconference back in May:
http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-audio-minutes.html#item02

If we decide to change the name of an interface, then in almost all cases, our options would be:
- We change the name in the spec. 
  Webkit implementation keeps supporting (or not) for webkit-prefixed code
- An informative note in the spec about the old name 
  (ditto above for webkit-prefixed code)
- Normative mention of both names in the spec, 
  with mention that the "bad" one is deprecated

ChrisW has written about this:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-audio/2012JulSep/0569.html


** Topic: Remaming noteOn/noteOff to start/stop or play/stop

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17344
http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-audio-minutes.html#item02

Back in May, there seemed to be general consensus that noteOn/noteOff was not the best name. start/stop was proposed and liked, and there was another proposal for play/stop. The question seems to be about what happens to noteOn/noteOff. 


** Topic: Renaming setTargetValueAtTime (and other AudioParam methods)

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17334

This proposed list got a large number of +1's 
- AudioParam.set(value, time)
- AudioParam.linearRamp(value, time)
- AudioParam.exponentialRamp(value, time)
- AudioParam.approach(target, time, k)
- AudioParam.curve(value_set, time, duration)

** Topic: Naming consistency for Create methods

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18332
Did not get a lot of discussion yet.


** Topic: Teleconference schedule

Whether, how often, and when.


** Topic: Renaming JavaScriptAudioNode

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17348
This one is complicated. I am guessing the solution will be architectural (whether we have a WorkerNode, etc) rather than a pure naming issue. 


** Topic: Revisiting the circular graph issue

Summarised here: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17326
We need more work on this to get to a resolution. I'd like the group to think about how we can inform our decision better.


** Topic: MIDI API naming

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17724
We might wait until officially chartered to work on MIDI to discuss this. That said, since we want to publish an FPWD soon, we may want to give it a thought or two sooner rather than later.


Olivier

On 20 Aug 2012, at 11:32, olivier Thereaux wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> Based on your feedback (on the list and directly), here is the agenda for the upcoming group teleconference.
> 
> When: Wednesday 22nd August, noon Boston for 60-90 minutes
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2012&month=8&day=22&hour=16&min=0&sec=0&p1=224&p2=43&p3=136&p4=291&p5=195&p6=237&p7=22
> 
> Logistics: http://www.w3.org/2011/audio/wiki/Main_Page#Telcon_Times
> 
> Proposed Agenda:
> 1) renaming some of the interfaces in the web audio API (and MIDI API)
> Read more:
> 	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-audio/2012JulSep/0569.html
> 	https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17344
> 	https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17334
> 	https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18332
> 	https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17348
> 	https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17724
> 
> (we will probably split this agenda into several, e.g cover start/stop, JSAudioNode and the MIDI interfaces naming separately)
> 
> 
> 2) Teleconference schedule
> Lessons from a async-only summer. Should we get back to a weekly teleconference pace from September onwards? 
> 
> 
> 3) [time permitting] Revisiting the circular graph (and sample rate limits) issue, which I believe got dropped from view in the past couple of months.
> Read more:
> 	https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17326
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Olivier