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Re: Clarification regarding live regions and hidden elements

From: Aaron Leventhal <aleventhal@google.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 14:27:42 +0000
Message-ID: <CA+1LECQrpyX+f_rw6trg=yTVKSe7WK8wktNFKONycETNwe+dbA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com>, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>
I'm in agreement -- my understanding was that the only time hidden content
is exposed is when pointed to by aria-labelledby/describedby.

You could, however, style a live region offscreen or behind something and
it should be spoken.

Aaron

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:04 PM Bryan Garaventa <
bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com> wrote:

> Thanks, that’s what I thought as well.
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> I can’t find anything in the spec that says this however, which makes it
> difficult for me to enter bugs against it.
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> Bryan Garaventa
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> Accessibility Fellow
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> Level Access, Inc.
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> Bryan.Garaventa@LevelAccess.com
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> 415.624.2709 <(415)%20624-2709> (o)
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> www.LevelAccess.com
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> *From:* Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 19, 2017 12:57 AM
> *To:* Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com>
> *Cc:* ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Clarification regarding live regions and hidden elements
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> If an element is meant to be explicitly hidden, should it remain an active
> live region regardless?
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> I don't believe it should, but this does not mean that its contents cannot
> be referenced via aria-labelledby/describedby when hidden.
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> --
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> Regards
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> SteveF
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> Current Standards Work @W3C
> <http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2015/03/current-standards-work-at-w3c/>
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> On 19 August 2017 at 00:25, Bryan Garaventa <
> bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
> Today I was asked whether live regions are allowed on hidden elements, and
> I thought this was a simple no, but in looking at the spec and testing, it
> appears people's understanding of this is all over the map.
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> E.G An element like a div that includes  CSS display:none or
> visibility:hidden, or the HTML5 hidden attribute, or even
> aria-hidden="true".
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> If an element is meant to be explicitly hidden, should it remain an active
> live region regardless?
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> Thanks,
> Bryan
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>
> Bryan Garaventa
> Accessibility Fellow
> Level Access, Inc.
> Bryan.Garaventa@LevelAccess.com
> 415.624.2709 <(415)%20624-2709> (o)
> www.LevelAccess.com
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