Defining minimum versions of required dependencies (was Re: ARIA Implementation Testing agenda item for ARIA call this week)

Jon, related to this thread: Something that I think we should do at some
point is define the minimum versions of required dependencies for each
platform for the purpose of testing. Otherwise we're in danger of people
reporting things failing, and the reason for the failure will turn out
to be the tester's system rather than the implementation.

--joanie


On 06/24/2016 12:07 PM, John Jansen wrote:
> You are on a very old build of Windows 10, so your results will not
> reflect any of the really awesome work we’ve done in the past year (your
> build is from last spring).
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> 
> In order for WebDriver to work with your build, you will need to install
> the 10240 build from the link below. However, as I say, you’ll not see
> any of our accessibility updates in that build. What you really want to
> do is get the latest Windows Insiders build which will have our new
> accessibility tree and the tree viewer in F12.
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> https://insider.windows.com/
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> *From:*Schnabel, Stefan [mailto:stefan.schnabel@sap.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2016 9:03 AM
> *To:* John Jansen <John.Jansen@microsoft.com>; Cynthia Shelly
> <cyns@microsoft.com>; Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com>;
> Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu>; John Foliot
> <john.foliot@deque.com>; Rakesh Paladugula
> <rakesh.paladugula@deque.com>; suman.damera@deque.com; Joanmarie Diggs
> <jdiggs@igalia.com>
> *Cc:* ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>; public-aria-test@w3.org
> *Subject:* RE: ARIA Implementation Testing agenda item for ARIA call
> this week
> 
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> John,
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> 
> Many thanks for quick answer. As a matter of fact, I downloaded the
> Insiders version from the given location before I wrote the last mail.
> My Edge is 20.10240.16384.0
> 
> This give me the (“Ordinal 870 cannot be located in dynamic link library
> error”) on start. I have Win 10 Enterprise 64bit with latest fixes.
> 
>  
> 
> BTW, I notetd that Edge seems not to map nodes referenced with
> aria-describedby relations to MSAA accDescription, IE 11 does. Can you
> verify that? Is there a comparison chart regarding Delta IE/Edge WAI
> ARIA support?
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> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Stefan
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*John Jansen [mailto:John.Jansen@microsoft.com]
> *Sent:* Freitag, 24. Juni 2016 17:31
> *To:* Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com
> <mailto:stefan.schnabel@sap.com>>; Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com
> <mailto:cyns@microsoft.com>>; Richard Schwerdtfeger
> <richschwer@gmail.com <mailto:richschwer@gmail.com>>; Gunderson, Jon R
> <jongund@illinois.edu <mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>>; John Foliot
> <john.foliot@deque.com <mailto:john.foliot@deque.com>>; Rakesh
> Paladugula <rakesh.paladugula@deque.com
> <mailto:rakesh.paladugula@deque.com>>; suman.damera@deque.com
> <mailto:suman.damera@deque.com>; Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com
> <mailto:jdiggs@igalia.com>>
> *Cc:* ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org
> <mailto:public-aria@w3.org>>; public-aria-test@w3.org
> <mailto:public-aria-test@w3.org>
> *Subject:* RE: ARIA Implementation Testing agenda item for ARIA call
> this week
> 
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> It should be compatible with the latest Windows Insider build. We are
> going to add some version checking in the future to help with this J
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> What you should do is download a new driver[1] that matches your build.
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> -John
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> [1] https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/webdriver/
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> *From:*Schnabel, Stefan [mailto:stefan.schnabel@sap.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 24, 2016 3:03 AM
> *To:* Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com <mailto:cyns@microsoft.com>>;
> Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com
> <mailto:richschwer@gmail.com>>; Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu
> <mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>>; John Jansen <John.Jansen@microsoft.com
> <mailto:John.Jansen@microsoft.com>>; John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com
> <mailto:john.foliot@deque.com>>; Rakesh Paladugula
> <rakesh.paladugula@deque.com <mailto:rakesh.paladugula@deque.com>>;
> suman.damera@deque.com <mailto:suman.damera@deque.com>; Joanmarie Diggs
> <jdiggs@igalia.com <mailto:jdiggs@igalia.com>>
> *Cc:* ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org
> <mailto:public-aria@w3.org>>; public-aria-test@w3.org
> <mailto:public-aria-test@w3.org>
> *Subject:* RE: ARIA Implementation Testing agenda item for ARIA call
> this week
> 
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> Cynthia,
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> Is the MicrosoftWebDriver.exe attached to the github project compliant
> to Edge V20.x ?
> 
> I get strange errors (“Ordinal 870 cannot be located”) when running the
> Server on Win 10 latest.
> 
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> 
> Regards
> 
> Stefan
> 
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> 
>  
> 
> *From:*Cynthia Shelly [mailto:cyns@microsoft.com]
> *Sent:* Donnerstag, 23. Juni 2016 22:18
> *To:* Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com
> <mailto:richschwer@gmail.com>>; Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu
> <mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>>; John Jansen <John.Jansen@microsoft.com
> <mailto:John.Jansen@microsoft.com>>; John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com
> <mailto:john.foliot@deque.com>>; Rakesh Paladugula
> <rakesh.paladugula@deque.com <mailto:rakesh.paladugula@deque.com>>;
> suman.damera@deque.com <mailto:suman.damera@deque.com>; Joanmarie Diggs
> <jdiggs@igalia.com <mailto:jdiggs@igalia.com>>
> *Cc:* ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org
> <mailto:public-aria@w3.org>>; public-aria-test@w3.org
> <mailto:public-aria-test@w3.org>
> *Subject:* RE: ARIA Implementation Testing agenda item for ARIA call
> this week
> 
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> Microsoft is planning to do MSAA, but not IA2. Someone should be able to
> build on top of that. It’s a couple days of straightforward coding to
> build one of these. 
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> 
> Rakesh and Suman,
> 
> Do you have C# or Python skills? Our stuff is written in C#, and I
> believe Joanie is doing the ATK one in Python.
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> Here’s the github
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> https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/A11y
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> A kickoff call would be great, but I don’t think we should block on
> that, given the time zone differences.
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> 
> *From:*Richard Schwerdtfeger [mailto:richschwer@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 23, 2016 8:40 AM
> *To:* Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu <mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>>
> *Cc:* ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org <mailto:public-aria@w3.org>>
> *Subject:* Re: ARIA Implementation Testing agenda item for ARIA call
> this week
> 
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> Jon, 
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> Has anyone started on adapting the automated testing for msaa/IA2?
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> 
> Rich
> 
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> 
>     On Jun 20, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu
>     <mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>> wrote:
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>     Rich,
> 
>      
> 
>     Can you add an agenda item to discuss the ARIA testing this week:
> 
>     1.      Update on availability of automated ARIA implementation
>     testing tools
> 
>     2.      Meeting time for the testing group
> 
>      
> 
>     Here is a wiki page created to start collecting information on ARIA
>     Implementation Testing:
> 
>     https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_1.1_Automated_Testing
> 
>      
> 
>     Jon Gunderson, Ph.D.
> 
>     Coordinator of IT Accessibility
> 
>     Disability Resources and Education Services
> 
>     University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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>      
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>     E-mail: jongund@illinois.edu <mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>
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