RE: Initial example of date picker using a menu button pattern

Wow, that is really irritating to test for when you are blind…


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From: James Nurthen <nurthen@adobe.com>
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Subject: Re: Initial example of date picker using a menu button pattern

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When VO is not running the keyboard still appears when selecting a date.

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From: Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com<mailto:bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com>>
Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 4:25 PM
To: James Nurthen <nurthen@adobe.com<mailto:nurthen@adobe.com>>, "Gunderson, Jon R" <jongund@illinois.edu<mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>>, "public-aria-practices@w3.org<mailto:public-aria-practices@w3.org>" <public-aria-practices@w3.org<mailto:public-aria-practices@w3.org>>
Subject: RE: Initial example of date picker using a menu button pattern

Hi James,
Actually I believe this is now fixed.
http://whatsock.com/tsg/Coding%20Arena/ARIA%20Date%20Pickers/ARIA%20Date%20Picker%20%28Basic%29/demo.htm


With VO running, there is no keyboard appearance after selecting a date.

If this works for you, I’ll push these into the relevant repos tomorrow.

All the best,
Bryan


Bryan Garaventa
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Level Access, Inc.
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When I am using an iOS device I open the date picker using the button. I select a date by tapping on it and focus goes back to the text field. This results in the soft keyboard appearing. As I am not typing a date I have no need for the keyboard so it should not appear.

Regards,
James

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From: Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com<mailto:bryan.garaventa@levelaccess.com>>
Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 2:53 PM
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Subject: RE: Initial example of date picker using a menu button pattern

Hi,
I’m not clear on what the problem is.

Can you explain the conflict?

Thanks,
Bryan


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Level Access, Inc.
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Deque’s example does not result in the keyboard appearing on iOS so IMO this would be ok.
The Whatsock example does result in the keyboard appearing so IMO is not acceptable.

Regards,
James
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From: "Gunderson, Jon R" <jongund@illinois.edu<mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>>
Date: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 3:15 PM
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Link to datepicker menu button example:
https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/issue34-date-picker-examples/examples/datepicker/datepicker-menubutton.html


Issues:

  1.  Other menu button date pickers move focus to the textbox instead of the button when a date is picked, we still want to stick with focus returning to the button?
  2.  Other examples:
Deque: https://dequeuniversity.com/library/aria/date-pickers/sf-date-picker


Whatsock (Bryan Garaventa): http://whatsock.com/tsg/Coding%20Arena/ARIA%20Date%20Pickers/ARIA%20Date%20Picker%20%28Basic%29/demo.htm




Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., CPWA
Coordinator of Accessible IT Group
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
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Champaign, IL 61820

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