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Re: [External] Re: Archive proposals to enhance Schema.org accepted and published

From: Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@dataliberate.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 15:24:57 +0100
Message-ID: <CAD47Kz4ikNLRZ4OPC1c2_38RPdN8LVytqVtj0zXURxriyg=fmA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Hillel Arnold <hillel.arnold@gmail.com>
Cc: public-architypes <public-architypes@w3.org>
Great news Hillel !

Please keep the group posted with any feedback and progress with the new
descovery system.

~Richard.
Richard Wallis
Founder, Data Liberate
http://dataliberate.com
Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardwallis
Twitter: @rjw



On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 15:20, Hillel Arnold <hillel.arnold@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is great news! I have just updated the Rockefeller Archive Center's
> implementation of Schema.org terms to include the ArchiveComponent and
> ArchiveOrganization types, as well as the holdingArchive and materialExtent
> properties. We're also in the process of speccing out a new discovery
> system, so I've added these updates to the requirements for that project.
>
> Hillel
>
> --
> Hillel Arnold
> Assistant Director, Head of Digital Programs
> Rockefeller Archive Center
> he/him/his
> 914.366.6382
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 9:48 AM Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2019, 06:35 Roke, Elizabeth Russey, <erussey@emory.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dan and Richard—
>>>
>>> Perhaps you could answer a question about the Google Structured Data
>>> Testing Tool.  It’s reporting errors for the new Schema Archives terms.  Is
>>> that going to happen as long as the archives proposal is still in pending
>>> status?  Many of us use that to check our markup.
>>>
>>
>> The tool will be updated, currently it is still based on Schema.org 3.4.
>>
>> Pending terms are fine. And anyway, Google just ignores stuff it doesn't
>> know about, so other markup will still work, so long as there are no
>> syntax errors
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ___________________________
>>>
>>> Elizabeth Russey Roke
>>>
>>> Digital Archivist
>>>
>>> Stuart A. Rose Manuscript, Archives, & Rare Book Library
>>>
>>> 404.727.2345 | erussey@emory.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: id:image001.png@01D2AEF7.A1E7BDC0]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "The Stuart A. Rose Manuscript, Archives, & Rare Book Library collects
>>> and connects stories of human experience, promotes access and learning, and
>>> offers opportunities for dialogue for all wise hearts who seek knowledge.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read the Rose Library blog: https://scholarblogs.emory.edu/marbl/
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 12:45 PM
>>> *To: *Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@dataliberate.com>
>>> *Cc: *public-architypes <public-architypes@w3.org>
>>> *Subject: *[External] Re: Archive proposals to enhance Schema.org
>>> accepted and published
>>> *Resent-From: *<public-architypes@w3.org>
>>> *Resent-Date: *Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 12:45 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Great to see this work maturing. Let me elaborate on Richard's point:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "All these, new in version 3.5, terms are held in the 'pending' section
>>> of the vocabulary.  This is normal practice and over time they will move
>>> out of that section.  Being in pending does not mean that a term should not
>>> be used.  In practice, the more a term is used, the sooner it will move out
>>> of pending."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd go further, and say that we really want to see applications using
>>> and consuming this new vocabulary, and that Schema.org is reluctant to move
>>> terms out of Pending without evidence that they are being actively used in
>>> serious applications. That need not be Web-wide search, but it should be
>>> applications with real users of some kind. So if you *are* making use
>>> of these terms, please don't be shy about sharing and publicizing what
>>> you're doing!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 12:33, Richard Wallis <
>>> richard.wallis@dataliberate.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am pleased to announce that the latest release of the Schema..org
>>> vocabulary (3.5) was launched today. It includes our proposals for archive
>>> specific terms. There were a few minor alterations as part of the process
>>> but in essence it is our proposal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Specifically:
>>>
>>>    - ArchiveOrganization <https://schema.org/ArchiveOrganization> - A
>>>    new type that identifies 'An organization with archival holdings'
>>>    - ArchiveComponent <https://schema.org.org/ArchiveComponent> - A new
>>>    type that can be applied to any archive content, collection or item.
>>>    - archiveHeld <https://schema.org/archiveHeld> - A property for
>>>    *ArchiveOrganization*. Collection fonds or item held, kept, or
>>>    maintained by an *ArchiveOrganization *Inverse of *holdingArchive.*
>>>    - holdingArchive <https://schema.org/holdingArchive> - A property
>>>    for *ArchiveComponent*. ArchiveOrganization that holds keeps or
>>>    maintains the * ArchiveComponent.  *Inverse of *archiveHeld.*
>>>
>>> In a separate proposal relevant to our group two more properties have
>>> been added to the vocabulary:
>>>
>>>    - collectionSize <https://schema.org/collectionSize> - Added to the
>>>    Collection <https://schema.org/Collection> type  to indicate the
>>>    number of items in the collection.
>>>    - materialExtent <https://schema.org/materialExtent> - Added to the
>>>    CreativeWork <https://schema.org/CreativeWork> type (and therefore
>>>    its subtypes). 'The quantity of the materials being described or an
>>>    expression of the physical space they occupy.'  This can be defined as
>>>    either a simple string or a detailed quantified value and measurement type
>>>    using the QuantitativeValue <https://schema.org/QuantitativeValue>
>>>     type.
>>>
>>> Also some new *CreativeWorks* subtypes suggested by the bibliographic
>>> folks may come in handy when describing things in archives: Manuscript
>>> <https://schema.org/Manuscript>, Poster <https://schema.org/Poster>,
>>> Drawing <https://schema.org/Drawing>, SheetMusic
>>> <https://schema.org/SheetMusic>, ShortStory
>>> <https://schema.org/ShortStory>, and Play <https://webschemas.org/Play>.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All these, new in version 3.5, terms are held in the 'pending' section
>>> of the vocabulary.  This is normal practice and over time they will move
>>> out of that section.  Being in pending does not mean that a term should not
>>> be used.  In practice, the more a term is used, the sooner it will move out
>>> of pending.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For more information on version 3.5, checkout the release notes:
>>> https://schema.org/docs/releases.html#v3.5
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard Wallis
>>>
>>> Founder, Data Liberate
>>>
>>> http://dataliberate.com
>>>
>>> Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardwallis
>>>
>>> Twitter: @rjw
>>>
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>>>
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