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Re: Widgets 1.0 - widget settings: publishing / modifications

From: Thomas Landspurg <thomas.landspurg@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:38:49 +0100
Message-ID: <ea4bcc690803170638n5d6978kb75182980aecfc20@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Marcos Caceres" <marcosscaceres@gmail.com>
Cc: "Sergey Ilinsky" <castonet@yahoo.co.uk>, public-appformats@w3.org
  Hello Sergey,

  In Webwag, both on Web version and on Mobile version events are fired when
preference change. This is used for instance to modify the UI based on some
preference. Typical use case: email widget configuration. You may first
choose Pop3, Google, Yahoo,MSN, etc.. and disable "extended choice" (of POP3
server ofr instance) if you select Google instead of Pop3.
  The setting are implemented by the framework, and not by the widget, which
make much more sense in constrained environment for instance (mobile).

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Marcos Caceres <marcosscaceres@gmail.com>

> Hi Sergey,
> > It's clear. As long as settings are not considered as part of a widget
> there
> > is of course no need in <setting name="" default="" type=""/> element or
> > event-based change notification mechanism (that makes sense only in case
> > whose settings could be modified from the Widget runtime UI).
> great.
> > But then you would not need the already added to the specification
> > "preferenceForKey / setPreferenceForKey" API. You could rather use
> storage
> > object defined in HTML5.
> Yep, but we are deliberately trying not to put dependencies on HTML5
> (it's too volatile and it won't be at Last Call for a number of years
> yet - we want the widget spec to be at Last Call this year). I think
> we are going to recommend HTML 4.01 as the UI language (yes, we know,
> HTML4.01 spec has massive issues/holes, but I think it's the best we
> have right now).
> > However i still think there is a need for the mentioned additions. Whose
> > would cover dashboard-like Widget runtime requirements (most of such
> > runtimes make use of them), while leaving widget developer an
> opportunity to
> > implement the settings management customly.
> I'm currently researching if events are thrown if preferences are
> changed in various widget engines. I was not aware that Dashboard has
> this functionality. Aside from Yahoo! Widgets, which other engines
> throw events when preferences are changed? If we find that there is a
> few that do it, then by all means we will put the event in the spec
> (I've tentatively put the IDL from my previous email in the Widgets
> 1.0: API's Editor's Draft [1]). It would be a massive help if you
> could list the widget engines so I can verify everything quickly.
> FWIW, our focus is explicitly dashboard-like Widget runtime. Not sure
> if you have seen these, but we have a fairly stable list of
> requirements published [2].
> Kind regards,
> Marcos
> [1] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-api/
> [2] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-reqs/
> --
> Marcos Caceres
> http://datadriven.com.au

Thomas Landspurg
Received on Monday, 17 March 2008 13:39:22 UTC

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