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Re: Accountability in AC4CSR

From: John Panzer <jpanzer@acm.org>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:54:42 -0800
Message-ID: <47B32EE2.9000400@acm.org>
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
CC: "WAF WG (public)" <public-appformats@w3.org>
Ian Hickson wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, John Panzer wrote:
>   
>>> (Though they might need to use different headers, of course -- we 
>>> obviously can't allow scripts doing cross-origin requests to 
>>> arbitrarily change HTTP authenticiation headers.)
>>>       
>> Sorry, it's not obvious to me.  We're talking about a situation where 
>> the server has explicitly opted in to CSRs.  I can understand not 
>> sending authorization data from the browser itself by default, maybe, 
>> but to block scripts from setting a header seems unnecessary and will 
>> just lead to X-Authorization:.
>>     
>
> There's no way we can allow a distributed authorisation credentials attack 
> on systems using username/password authentication or cookie authentication 
> mechanisms. The browser vendors just wouldn't let implement anything that 
> allowed that.
>   
What mechanism do you propose clients and servers implement use to 
authenticate users for CSR requests?  Because servers have to implement 
_something_.  Realistic mechanisms have to be resistant to distributed 
brute force attacks even without AC4CSR (thank you, Storm Worm). 

On a side note, I hope that servers opting in to CSR would never 
consider using username/password auth on each request.  Since it is 
possible to implement username/password auth in ways opaque to browsers 
("&u=foo&pass=bar"), perhaps this is worth a note in the security section.

John
Received on Wednesday, 13 February 2008 17:51:13 GMT

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