- From: Gottfried Zimmermann \(Lists\) <zimmermann@accesstechnologiesgroup.com>
- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 19:03:46 +0100
- To: "'W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures'" <public-apa@w3.org>
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Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: cooper to draft accessibility considerations section for
https://www.w3.org/TR/filter-effects-1/
[NEW] ACTION: cooper to ping review of UI Events - due 9 January 2019
[NEW] ACTION: janina to return to drafting comments on POE Use Cases and
Requirements
Best regards,
Gottfried
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Prof. Dr. Gottfried Zimmermann
Access Technologies Group, Germany
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
28 Nov 2018
Attendees
Present
janina, Joanmarie_Diggs, JF, irfan, Gottfried, MichaelC,
Dev, JonnyJames, Becka11y, Chris_
Regrets
Chair
janina
Scribe
Gottfried
Contents
* [2]Topics
1. [3]Agenda Review & Announcements
2. [4]COGA Document CfC
3. [5]Next and future meetings
4. [6]new on TR
http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
5. [7]Actions Checkin (Specs)
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
6. [8]Specification Matrix Review
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review
7. [9]Community Group Redux
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Community_Groups
* [10]Summary of Action Items
* [11]Summary of Resolutions
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<scribe> scribe: Gottfried
Agenda Review & Announcements
Becky: Action item on call for consensus on Coga?
Janina: Let's make this a separate item on the agenda.
COGA Document CfC
<janina>
[12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2018No
v/0000.html
[12]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2018Nov/0000.html
Janina: The message in the email is very accurate.
... You need to think about the case for the wider W3C before
having it reviewed by others.
... They never finished creating the gap analysis - huge
appendix.
... Splitting allows to finish the gap analysis.
Michael: It is a fpwd. It means we agree that the initial
content is worth publishing.
Janina: Does it makes sense to split up into two documents.
John: Would say yes.
Janina: I don't see a strong argument for keeping together.
Next and future meetings
Janina: We should be able to publish the announcement for the
pronuncation tf this week.
... We will meet Dec. 5, 12 and 19 this year. Then two weeks
off.
new on TR [13]http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
[13] http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
Janina: First meeting in 2019 on Jan. 9.
<MichaelC> [14]Extensions to the Semantic Sensor Network
Ontology
[14] https://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-ssn-ext/
Michael: Lower level, usually let go.
John: Part of personalization involves ontology. This looks
like it is related to the web of things. There may be a
correlation between some of the representational stuff we are
working on.
Michael: The actual ontology is a separate spec.
... We looked at it in 2016 and decided to not review it.
... I don't think the features of the spec relate to us.
Janina: Sensors denote a one-way communication.
... Our concerns are not in this spec.
<MichaelC> [15]Filter Effects Module Level 1
[15] https://www.w3.org/TR/filter-effects-1/
Janina: Previous version published in 2014.
... Started with CSS, now joined with SVG.
... Filters for image editing program. Pretty low-level.
... When we reviewed it last, we did not have the concept of
a11y statements. We may want to request that.
... Would this be a mechanism for the knowledge domain concept?
Michael: Not necessarily.
Janina: I am thinking low-vision.
Michael: Filters could create low-vision problems, but that's
an authoring choice.
Janina: Back to a11y impact statement.
Michael: We might want some features to be turned off in some
conditions.
Janina: Maybe pass to SVG tf?
Michael: Editors are SVG people.
Janina: Who could draft an accessibility considerations
statement?
<MichaelC> ACTION: cooper to draft accessibility considerations
section for [16]https://www.w3.org/TR/filter-effects-1/
[16] https://www.w3.org/TR/filter-effects-1/
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2184 - Draft accessibility
considerations section for
[17]https://www.w3.org/tr/filter-effects-1/ [on Michael Cooper
- due 2018-12-05].
[17] https://www.w3.org/tr/filter-effects-1/
<MichaelC> action-2184:
[18]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Filter_Effects_Module_Level
_1
[18] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Filter_Effects_Module_Level_1
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2184 Draft accessibility
considerations section for
[19]https://www.w3.org/tr/filter-effects-1/.
[19] https://www.w3.org/tr/filter-effects-1/.
Becky: I could take a first stab and then have Michael review
it.
... Where is a good example for this?
<Dev> Is this compatible with aria?
<janina>
[20]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2016Aug/0035
.html
[20] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2016Aug/0035.html
Actions Checkin (Specs)
[21]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
[21] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
action-2183?
<trackbot> action-2183 -- Janina Sajka to Draft a message to
the trace context spec authors - and run by joanie.
[22]https://www.w3.org/tr/2018/wd-distributed-tracing-20181106/
-- due 2018-11-14 -- OPEN
[22] https://www.w3.org/tr/2018/wd-distributed-tracing-20181106/
<trackbot> [23]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2183
[23] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2183
Janina: Not done, will try this week
action-2182?
<trackbot> action-2182 -- Janina Sajka to Draft a paper for the
strong authentication & identity workshop -- due 2018-11-14 --
OPEN
<trackbot> [24]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2182
[24] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2182
Janina: We never found anybody to go
Michael: Deadline is 2018-11-30
Janina: I will try
action-2181?
<trackbot> action-2181 -- Janina Sajka to Review
[25]https://www.w3.org/tr/navigation-timing-2/ navigation
timing level 2 -- due 2018-10-31 -- OPEN
[25] https://www.w3.org/tr/navigation-timing-2/
<trackbot> [26]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2181
[26] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2181
Janina: Why were we concerned?
... Fingerprinting
... Will do later.
action-2180?
<trackbot> action-2180 -- John Foliot to Respond review of page
visibility level 2 at
[27]http://lists.w3.org/archives/public/public-apa/2018jul/0020
.html -- due 2018-09-19 -- OPEN
[27] http://lists.w3.org/archives/public/public-apa/2018jul/0020.html
<trackbot> [28]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2180
[28] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2180
Michael: Not sure we got a response from them.
John: I need to complete this.
action-2172?
<trackbot> action-2172 -- Janina Sajka to Review web audio api
-- due 2018-06-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [29]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2172
[29] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2172
Janina: Probably not going to happen
<MichaelC> close action-2172
<trackbot> Closed action-2172.
action-2169?
<trackbot> action-2169 -- Janina Sajka to Ask web assembly wg
about web assembly core, what are use cases, does it impact ui
and need a11y advice about using a11y api -- due 2018-02-28 --
OPEN
<trackbot> [30]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2169
[30] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2169
Janina: Let's keep that open
action-2168?
<trackbot> action-2168 -- Janina Sajka to Review credential
management level 1 -- due 2018-02-28 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [31]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2168
[31] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2168
Janina: May need to abandon
<MichaelC> close action-2168
<trackbot> Closed action-2168.
action-2164?
<trackbot> action-2164 -- Jason White to Complete the process
of posting updates regarding rqtf to wai-ig. -- due 2018-01-15
-- OPEN
<trackbot> [32]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2164
[32] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2164
action-2160?
<trackbot> action-2160 -- Léonie Watson to Review web of things
(wot) security and privacy considerations -- due 2018-09-13 --
OPEN
<trackbot> [33]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2160
[33] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2160
action-2149?
<trackbot> action-2149 -- Léonie Watson to Review web of things
(wot) thing description -- due 2018-09-13 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [34]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2149
[34] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2149
action-2111?
<trackbot> action-2111 -- Janina Sajka to Check on the status
of our previous comments on payments -- due 2018-09-05 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [35]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2111
[35] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2111
<MichaelC> close action-2111
<trackbot> Closed action-2111.
Janina: We accepted their rewrite of our suggested language.
Specification Matrix Review
[36]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review
[36] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review
Janina: We spent some time on this last week. Are we finished?
Michael: Specs are tagged as Assigned, active or deferred.
... We stopped at the payment stuff last time.
... Next: POE use cases and requirements
<MichaelC>
[37]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/POE_Use_Cases_and_Requireme
nts
[37] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/POE_Use_Cases_and_Requirements
Michael: Janina sent an email in 2016
... Janina wrote to watch out for denial of content access to
AT.
... Updated in 2017, pretty stable.
... Permissions and obligations expression group
... Working on ODRL vocabulary and expressions
Janina: Add a cross-ref to the spec review, please
... ODRL is useful and has been used by DAISY.
... Has been around for a while.
Michael: Adding links to ODRL information model
<MichaelC> ACTION: janina to return to drafting comments on POE
Use Cases and Requirements
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2185 - Return to drafting comments on
poe use cases and requirements [on Janina Sajka - due
2018-12-05].
<MichaelC> action-2185:
[38]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/POE_Use_Cases_and_Requireme
nts
[38] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/POE_Use_Cases_and_Requirements
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2185 Return to drafting
comments on poe use cases and requirements.
<MichaelC>
[39]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/TTML_Profiles_for_Internet_
Media_Subtitles_and_Captions_1.1
[39]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/TTML_Profiles_for_Internet_Media_Subtitles_a
nd_Captions_1.1
John: We offered them draft language which they incorporated.
Janina: Close as successful outcome
<MichaelC>
[40]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/TV_Control_API_Specificatio
n
[40] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/TV_Control_API_Specification
Michael: Went to a note.
<MichaelC>
[41]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/UI_Events_Specification
[41] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/UI_Events_Specification
Michael: Cynthia sent comments in 2016.
... But we never looked after it.
... No idea whether her comments were incorporated.
... Her comments were pretty detailed. Probably another review.
Janina: Seems useful to pay attention to this.
... Maybe someone can take an action in Jan.
<MichaelC> ACTION: cooper to ping review of UI Events - due 9
January 2019
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2186 - Ping review of ui events [on
Michael Cooper - due 2019-01-09].
<MichaelC>
[42]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Verifiable_Claims_Data_Mode
l_and_Representations
[42]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Verifiable_Claims_Data_Model_and_Representat
ions
Michael: We sent comments in Aug 2018
Janina: Tzviya reviewed this
Michael: And Gottfried
Janina: Tzviya and i exchanged email - but not on the Wiki
... It went to our list in Oct.
[43]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2018Oct/0004
.html
[43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2018Oct/0004.html
Michael: Probably not much for the Wiki.
<MichaelC> [44]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Animations
[44] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Animations
Michael: We passed this off the css tf.
... Could be some WCAG 2.1 issues.
... Let's keep it on the tf
Web Authentication: A Web API for accessing scoped credentials
[45]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Authentication:_A_Web_A
PI_for_accessing_scoped_credentials
[45]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Authentication:_A_Web_API_for_accessing_
scoped_credentials
Web Payments HTTP API 1.0
Michael: Got addressed by the web payments subgroup - but not
existing anymore
<MichaelC>
[46]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Payments_HTTP_Messages_
1.0
[46] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_Payments_HTTP_Messages_1.0
Janina: Same thing
WebVTT: The Web Video Text Tracks Format
[47]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/WebVTT:_The_Web_Video_Text_
Tracks_Format
[47]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/WebVTT:_The_Web_Video_Text_Tracks_Format
<MichaelC>
[48]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/WebVTT:_The_Web_Video_Text_
Tracks_Format
[48]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/WebVTT:_The_Web_Video_Text_Tracks_Format
Michael: Went to CR in May.
... Comments were sent by us in Jan. 2018
John: Discussed in a meeting in Apr/May
Michael: Need a pointer to include in the wiki
<MichaelC>
[49]https://www.w3.org/2018/02/28-apa-minutes.html#item02
[49] https://www.w3.org/2018/02/28-apa-minutes.html#item02
Michael: So we sent comments after that meeting.
... Added in the wiki now.
... We are through on "active" specs now.
Janina: We also need to look at "assigned" specs
Michael: "Deferred" also for admin reasons
Community Group Redux
[50]https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Community_Groups
[50] https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Community_Groups
Janina: We fairly recently updated our matrix on community
groups.
... There is a need for a slight reorganization. Judy asked
about a11y concerns in community groups, and who is covering
that.
... Looking at our matrix, we do not have an easy way to answer
that question.
... Not sure how to solve this problem.
... We are looking for ideas.
Becky: So we would put this up on a new page with names?
Janina: Yes, basically. If we don't have names: "No persons
identified"
... How can we double-check who is covering what?
... Not needed to be solved today, but until end of this year.
Becky: We might update the one section where we have names for
tracking groups.
... Maybe need to annotate a bit more?
Janina: Yes, maybe. Then we can point Judy to that page.
Becky: Maybe just turn it into a table?
Janina: Maybe so
<Chris_> thanks!
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: cooper to draft accessibility considerations
section for https://www.w3.org/TR/filter-effects-1/
[NEW] ACTION: cooper to ping review of UI Events - due 9
January 2019
[NEW] ACTION: janina to return to drafting comments on POE Use
Cases and Requirements
Summary of Resolutions
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