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Re: HTML Alt Again

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:23:52 -0400
To: "Liam R. E. Quin" <liam@w3.org>
Cc: W3C WAI Accessible Platform Architectures <public-apa@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20170920132352.GF9198@rednote.net>
Liam:

Thanks for your suggestions. I like them and will ask APA (and the wider
WAI) to consider implementation.

Janina

Liam R E Quin writes:
> On Tue, 2017-09-19 at 15:25 -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > 
> [...]
> > The above tutorial content suggests the following as an alt:
> > 
> > <img src="sales.gif"
> >      title="Sales graph"
> >           alt="From 1998 to 2005, sales increased by the following
> > 	  percentages
> > 	       with each year: 624%, 75%, 138%, 40%, 35%, 9%, 21%">
> 
> 
> > 
> > 	       I would not want to hear that level of descriptive
> > detail
> > 	       every time I sourced a page. Alt is enforced hearing to
> > a
> > 	       screen reader user--a concept which seems to have been
> > 	       missed by the author of this tutorial.
> 
> Yes, completely. In addition, sighted users relying on alt text for
> missing images will likely not see all of that text, as it's (by
> default, depending on CSS) clipped to the image size and not wrapped.
> 
> 
> > 
> > 	       This is a description, imo, not an alt.
> > 
> > 	       Am I wrong?
> 
> Well, i agree with you. Steve did a lot of work on them but at that
> time there was no longdesc allowed to be mentioned and no
> figure/details stuff.
> 
> I had to stop working on the replacement, partly because of the
> politics at the time but mostly because the recommended solutions were
> in flux. If they've settled down, i'd suggest:
> 
> 1. the HTML spec should have no more than roughly three paragraphs
> about alt. Very few people will read more, and those people will
> probably be willing to read a separate document.
> 
> 2. The HTML spec should point to a non-normative document under WAI's
> control that gives examples in more detail.
> 
> Liam
> 
> -- 
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> 
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