Re: AI Concepts & StratML

Hi Paola,

Thanks for your note.  It's good to see the whole system being being
addressed.

As you may know, the Executable English platform is live online for anyone
to use, with many examples.

Here are some examples that may be relevant:

  www.executable-english.com/demo_agents/DataModelling1.agent

  www.executable-english.com/demo_agents/SemanticResolution2.agent
    (contains a way of computing Semantic Distance)

  www.executable-english.com/demo_agents/GrowthAndDebt1.agent

Please feel free to write and run your own examples using the shared
default "demo" ID.  Shared use is free, and there are no advertisements.

I look forward to comments,

                            Thanks,      -- Adrian

Adrian Walker
Executable English LLC
San Jose, CA, USA
860 830 2085
www.executable-english.com

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:26 PM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Adrian
>
> I hope you are well!
>
> I am walking through some ideas on a new W3C community group, see the
> exchange below,
> and I wonder if there is something EE could help with.  If so, please
> consider joining the AI KR CG and help us
> hack an EE query to extract some terms.
>
> Dr Paola Di Maio
> Center For Technology Ethics
> ISTCS.org and  Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>
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> *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>*
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 10:50 AM
> Subject: Re: AI Concepts & StratML
> To: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
> Cc: carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>, Paola Di Maio <
> paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <
> metadataportals@yahoo.com>, public-aikr@w3.org, Andre Cusson <
> akhu01@gmail.com>, Jason Lind <jasonl@transformation.run>, Chris Fox <
> chris@chriscfox.com>, Alejandro Revuelta <alejandro.revuelta@ximdex.com>,
> Denise Bedford <db233@georgetown.edu>
>
>
> Thank you Owen and all-
>
> There could be a lot to munch just in this
>
>
>>
>> I was already planning to use Paola’s vocabulary form
>> <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/welcome/ai-kr-task-list/vocabulary/>
>> to capture the names and definitions of the elements of the StratML
>> standard itself.
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>
> like, manually?or using what tool?
>
>
>> However, if someone can automate the process of gleaning relevant
>> concepts from the StratML collection
>> <http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm> itself, which now includes more
>> than 4,000 files <http://legisworks.org/StratML/catalogsitemap.html>,
>> that would be great.
>>
>
>  There may be things out there which could do this.
> 1. should we ask Adrian Walker to hack this with executable english?
> 2 Could this tool be useful? http://yaml-online-parser.appspot.com/
> 3. may there be other tools out there to point to stratml homepage with a
> few
> selection commands and click 'extract'
>
>
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>> In the meantime, this Google site-specific query
>> <https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=AI&btnG=Google+Search&domains=stratml.us&sitesearch=stratml.us>
>> reveals about 200 StratML files referencing “AI”.
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> interesting scroll
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>> This one
>> <https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=KM&btnG=Google+Search&domains=stratml.us&sitesearch=stratml.us>
>> reveals 7 referencing “KM”.  However, that listing is incomplete because
>> there are more than that listed at http://stratml.us/drybridge/in
>> dex.htm#AIIMKM
>>
>
> why  do you think the list is incomplete? something missing from the
> markup?
>
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>> I’m copying Andre Cusson since he has already give much thought to the
>> relevance of the StratML standard in the domain of KM.  Links to the
>> indices he created several years ago are provided at
>> http://stratml.us/#Cusson  See, for example,
>> http://stratml.hyperbase.com/values.html
>>
>
> Nice to meet you Andre
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>> BTW, most, if not necessarily all of the elements of the StratML
>> vocabulary (plus some elements not yet included in the standard) are
>> documented in SKOS format at http://stratml.us/draft/StratMLGlossary.xml
>> However, the SKOS reference is informative only.  The schemas themselves
>> are authoritative and they are documented at http://stratml.us/#Part1 &
>> http://stratml.us/#Part2
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>>
> good to know, SKOS is somehow to be regarded
>
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> PDM
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>> *From:* carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 20, 2018 9:27 AM
>> *To:* Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
>> *Cc:* Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>; ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <
>> metadataportals@yahoo.com>; public-aikr@w3.org
>> *Subject:* Re: IDESG, AIKRCG & Identity
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>> Excellent suggestion ... having a Stratml extract based ranking plus
>> co-location (semantic distance) should provide an excellent startpoint for
>> further discussion
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>> It was a pleasure to clarify
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>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Also should be easy to extract a set of AI related keywords from your
>> stratml set?
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>>  we can then make a long list and 'rank them' collectively
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>> and include the top ones in our vocab.
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>> wouldnt this make a nice project and one possible paper?
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>> cheers
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>> P
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>> Dr Paola Di Maio
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>> Center For Technology Ethics
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>> ISTCS.org and  Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>
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>> *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>*
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>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 4:31 PM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Owen
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>> I browsed stratml web page and there seem to be a lot of initiatives
>> relevant to CG mission
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>> I wonder if one (not me tho) could build a parsing agent to match our cg
>> GOAL and mission to other entities
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>> and then invite the folks in charge or relevant bits to submit their open
>> knowledge schemas and/or documentation
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>> to this cg
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>> if building the agent is too expensive, we could do this manually?
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>> just thinking
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>> PDM
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>> Dr Paola Di Maio
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>> Center For Technology Ethics
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>> ISTCS.org and  Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>
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>> *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>*
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>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:33 PM, Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
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>> IDESG’s mission and objectives are available in StratML format at
>> http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#IDESG and so too are the goals and
>> objectives of this group as identified thus far, at
>> http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#AIKRCG   I look forward to
>> learning how they might mesh and mutually support each other.
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>> BTW, as far as personal and organizational identities are concerned, what
>> I care most about are personal values supported by longer-term goals and
>> near-term objectives realized in performance metrics documented in records
>> having the attributes outlined in ISO 15489.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-Readable_Documents#Definition
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>> Owen
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>> *From:* carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:26 AM
>> *To:* Paola Di Maio <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
>> *Cc:* ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>;
>> public-aikr@w3.org
>> *Subject:* Re: welcome newcomers subgroups, home page and categories
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>> To help progress .. please consider using a page with content similar to
>> 'concept creation' guidelines
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>> o    1.1 What sort of 'thing' is this proposed concept anyway?
>> <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#What_sort_of_.27thing.27_is_this_proposed_concept_anyway.3F>
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>> o    1.2 How to decide? Is it important?
>> <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#How_to_decide.3F_Is_it_important.3F>
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>> o    1.3 Understanding context
>> <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Understanding_context>
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>> o    1.4 The "Conversation" is valuable
>> <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#The_.22Conversation.22_is_valuable>
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>> ·         2 Using a Meta-Model (or two)
>> <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Using_a_Meta-Model_.28or_two.29>
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>> ·         3 Create a new proposed Concept
>> <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Create_a_new_proposed_Concept>
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>> https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Conc
>> ept_Creation_Guidelines
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>> Carl Mattocks
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>> It was a pleasure to clarify
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>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Thank you Milton
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>> Do you have a way you'd like to propose the way forward?
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>> Shall we just create two pages, where we collect existing definitions and
>> come up with our own
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>> definition that possibly encompasses them all, thus delivers the broadest
>> possible meaning?
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>> Should the group be the 'owner' of these two definitions?
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>> Let me know if you can initiate these two pages
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>> P
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>> Dr Paola Di Maio
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>> Center For Technology Ethics
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>> ISTCS.org
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>> Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>
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>> *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>*
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>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:21 AM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <
>> metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Paola and other members of the AIKR community group.
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>> Two things we need to establish to reach a consensus of the area we are
>> going to deal with.
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>> Number one: the broadest possible definition of what constitutes
>> "artificial intelligence" and number two what constitutes "knowledge
>> representation" also in the broadest possible sense.
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>> Only then can we assess what grounds we want or need to cover.
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>> It is for that reason I proposed to create and overview map of what
>> currently constitutes AI and related disciplines.
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>> But I am also writing a definition paper using category theory to
>> establish a generalized framework which introduces all possible categories
>> of interacting entities, and utilizes a system to define boundaries for AI
>> for interaction, as suggested by the likes of Stephen Hawking, Elon Musk,
>> Kurzweil and countless others.
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>> regards
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>> Milton Ponson
>> GSM: +297 747 8280
>> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
>> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
>> *Project Paradigm*: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development
>> to all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied
>> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development
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>> On Sunday, July 15, 2018 2:41 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Welcome newcomers (22 members!)
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>> there's a thread in the mailing list to intro yourselves at your
>> convenience
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>> Based on other work, and anticipating future developments
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>> (Milton mentioned subgroups) I have created a page subgroups, and opened
>> two additional pages as containers for future subgroups where some work may
>> be needed (AI Ethics KR and Professional schemas).
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>> Feel free to edit, add, enter etc
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>> https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/subgroups/
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>> This is a bit ahead of us perhaps but things are moving fast to have the
>> pages may be cognitive support. The professional schema entry may need
>> better wording, I have not thought it property yet.
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>> I have two issues with our home page, maybe W3C folks on this list can
>> assist?
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>> Here
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>> https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/
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>> 1. The main text area of the page contains some duplicate text, I dont
>> seem to be able to edit/access the upper portion of the group description,
>> I have pinged Veronica Thom about this but have not yet had any reply.
>> Maybe this was created by staff and I cannot edit? can someone assist
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>> 2. On the right hand sidebar, where it says 'categories'
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>> the categories which I created are not listed, can someone help?
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>> Thank you!!
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>> PDM
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>> Center For Technology Ethics
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>> ISTCS.org
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>> Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>
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