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Re: SWAP WG Charter -- Second iteration

From: Jon Pyke <gfd67@dial.pipex.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:45:08 +0100
Message-ID: <00a101bdf133$9b854330$70080b0a@z2ndj>
To: "Surendra Reddy" <skreddy@us.oracle.com>, "Fernstrom, Christer" <Christer.Fernstrom@xrce.xerox.com>, <swap-wg@netscape.com>, <ietf-swap@w3.org>
Cc: <moore@cs.utk.edu>, <paf@swip.net>
Perhaps I'm losing the plot along the way - I thought SWAP was aimed at
being a workflow standard - if that's so then I think there is value in
working with or as part of WfMC - SWAP would make an excellent extension to
IF4, which I thought was the original intention.

-----Original Message-----
From: Surendra Reddy <skreddy@us.oracle.com>
To: Jon Pyke <gfd67@dial.pipex.com>; Fernstrom, Christer
<Christer.Fernstrom@xrce.xerox.com>; swap-wg@netscape.com
<swap-wg@netscape.com>; ietf-swap@w3.org <ietf-swap@w3.org>
Cc: moore@cs.utk.edu <moore@cs.utk.edu>; paf@swip.net <paf@swip.net>
Date: 05 October 1998 18:23
Subject: RE: SWAP WG Charter -- Second iteration


>SWAP working would consider and evaluate other relevant work done
>in other working working groups including WfMC. Working Group
>consensus will drive which work can be used and not the charter.
>
>Any suggestions/opinons in the group.
>
>Surendra
>
>|-----Original Message-----
>|From: Jon Pyke [mailto:gfd67@dial.pipex.com]
>|Sent: Monday, October 05, 1998 11:27 AM
>|To: Fernstrom, Christer; 'Surendra Reddy'; swap-wg@netscape.com;
>|ietf-swap@w3.org
>|Cc: moore@cs.utk.edu; paf@swip.net
>|Subject: Re: SWAP WG Charter -- Second iteration
>|
>|
>|To pick up on Christer's point - what exactly is the relationship between
>|the SWAP WG and the Coalition - I could be on the wrong mailing lists but
I
>|have seen nothing for some time which even remotely suggests
>|X-fertilization
>|of strategy, scope and ideas.
>|
>|Jon Pyke
>|CTO
>|Staffware
>|-----Original Message-----
>|From: Fernstrom, Christer <Christer.Fernstrom@xrce.xerox.com>
>|To: 'Surendra Reddy' <skreddy@us.oracle.com>; swap-wg@netscape.com
>|<swap-wg@netscape.com>; ietf-swap@w3.org <ietf-swap@w3.org>
>|Cc: moore@cs.utk.edu <moore@cs.utk.edu>; paf@swip.net <paf@swip.net>
>|Date: 05 October 1998 07:40
>|Subject: RE: SWAP WG Charter -- Second iteration
>|
>|
>|>Oughtn't the harmonization with the Workflow Management Coalition be part
>|of the goals?
>|> christer fernstrom, Xerox Research, France
>|>
>|>-----Original Message-----
>|>From: Surendra Reddy [mailto:skreddy@us.oracle.com]
>|>Sent: Saturday, October 03, 1998 6:06 PM
>|>To: swap-wg@netscape.com; ietf-swap@w3.org
>|>Cc: moore@cs.utk.edu; paf@swip.net
>|>Subject: SWAP WG Charter -- Second iteration
>|>
>|>
>|>
>|>Here is the second iteration of SWAP Wg charter. I have removed
>|>IN-SCOPE and NOT IN-SCOPE goals from the charter. Goals document,
>|>which will be published as an informational RFC as first document
>|>, describes goals of this working group. I also made some changes
>|>to the milestones to make it more realistic. It is time for us
>|>to move forward to work the goals document.
>|>
>|>Apprciate your comments/suggestions.
>|>
>|>Surendra
>|>
>|>SWAP -- Simple Workflow Access Protocol Working Group
>|>
>|>Chair(s)
>|>
>|>   * Surendra Reddy (skreddy@us.oracle.com)
>|>
>|>Applications Area Director(s):
>|>
>|>   * Keith Moore <moore+swap@cs.utk.edu>
>|>   * Patrik Faltstrom <paf@swip.net>
>|>
>|>Area Advisor
>|>
>|>   * TBD
>|>
>|>Mailing List Information
>|>
>|>   * General Discussion: ietf-swap@w3.org
>|>   * To Subscribe: send msg to ietf-swap-request@3.org with "subscribe"
>|>     in subject
>|>   * Archive:http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-swap/
>|>   * Documents: http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/ietf/swap/
>|>
>|>Description of Working Group
>|>
>|>There is no standard way to communicate and interoperate across
>|>heterogeneous workflow engines in order to coordinate and execute work
>|>process instances across those workflow engines. Most of the solutions
>|>exist today are vendor specific. This means that Workflow vendors need
>|>to support multiple protocols to enable interoperability between worflow
>|>systems.
>|>
>|>The goal of this working group is to develop the goals and
>|requirements for
>|>Workflow systems interoperability.
>|>
>|>The further goal is to define an application level Workflow
>|Interoperability
>|>protocol. Workflow interoperability goals document defines the
>|scope of the
>|>protocol.
>|>
>|>
>|>Deliverables
>|>
>|>The final output of this working group is expected to be four documents:
>|>
>|>1. A workflow interoperability goals document, which describes the scope
>|>    and limitations of the protocol.
>|>
>|>2. A requirements document, which describes the high-level functional
>|>   requirements for Simple Workflow Access Protocol, including rationale.
>|>
>|>3. A scenarios document, a description of how this protocol can be used
>|>   effectively.
>|>
>|>4. A protocol specification, which describes methods, request bodies, and
>|>   response bodies, to implement the  Simple Workflow Access Protocol
>|>   requirements.
>|>
>|>Goals and Milestones
>|>
>|>
>|> Oct 98  Publish Simple Workflow Access Protocol goals document
>|as Internet
>|> Draft.
>|>
>|> Nov 98  Submit revised versions of Requirements, Scenarios and goals
>|documents
>|>         as Internet-Drafts.
>|>
>|> Feb 99  Submit goals document as an informational RFC
>|>         Submit revised protocol specification document as Internet Draft
>|>
>|> Jun 99 Issue WG last call for requirements, scenarios and protocol
>|specification
>|>
>|> Jul 99  Submit requirements and scenarios documents as informational
RFCs
>|>
>|> Sep 99  Submit SWAP specification as a proposed standard
>|>
>|>Current Internet-Drafts
>|>
>|> Requirements for Simple Workflow Access Protocol(http://
>|> www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sreddy-swap-requirements-01.txt)
>|>
>|> SWAP Specification(strawman) ( http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>|> draft-swenson-swap-prot-00.txt).
>|>
>|>No Request For Comments
>|>
>|>
>|>
>|>
>|>
>|>
>|>
>|>------------------------------------------------------------------
>|---------
>|--
>|>Surendra K Reddy, Data Server Division, Oracle Corporation
>|>phone: +1(650) 506 5441 . mobile: +1(650) 867 4757 . fax: +1(650) 506
7228
>|>email: skreddy@us.oracle.com . URL:
>|http://www-skreddy.us.oracle.com(Internal)
>|>URL: http://www.skreddy.com(external)
>|>
>|>Disclaimer : The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and
>|>             do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation.
>|>
>|
>|
>
Received on Tuesday, 6 October 1998 10:18:41 GMT

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