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Re: Giving the Framing Layer a real name

From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:23:24 +0100
To: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Cc: HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20130227062324.GB1365@1wt.eu>
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 04:12:32PM +1100, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> I've been a bit uncomfortable with our current nomenclature for a little while.
> Right now we have:
>   - a spec called "Hypertext Transfer Protocol version 2.0"
>   - ... that does " HTTP Layering over HTTP/2.0"
>   - ... onto a framing layer that we also call "HTTP/2.0"
> I'm very tempted to propose that we:
>   - Give the framing layer a distinct name. I don't care what it is.
>   - Section 4 becomes "Layering HTTP Semantics onto XXXX."
>   - "HTTP/2.0" is the name of the package of doing so -- i.e., HTTP semantics
>   on a new framing layer.
> I think this would make our discussions somewhat less confusing, especially
> around things like the upgrade process, and make our documentation clearer.
> It would also help clarify when it's appropriate to put something in a header
> (HTTP stuff) vs. in the framing layer (connection-specific stuff).
> However, I recognise that naming things is hard, and I don't want this to
> become the bikeshed that kills us all. I'm also aware that doing so may
> encourage people to treat the framing layer as a substrate, but I don't see
> any way to avoid that, and won't mind, as long as we don't exceed our
> charter.

It's not a problem if people see the two parts as distinct. After all, if
we come up with something which later can be reused to transport other
protocols (eg: WebSocket) without the need for HTTP semantics, it will
be a good thing.

> Any concerns in doing so? Suggestions for a name?

I'm wondering whether we don't already have such things : 
  - HTTP holds the semantics
  - SPDY is the framing layer.

And if would 1) emphasize the fact that we don't want to change semantics,
and 2) acknowledge the work done by the SPDY team.

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