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Re: How to stop receiving a pushed resource? (I-D Action: draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-01.txt)

From: Roberto Peon <grmocg@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:17:13 -0800
Message-ID: <CAP+FsNdRdYSz8JaX3=LH5fuekV81nnU+hD593viUppuOyJNR_Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com>
Cc: Ilya Grigorik <ilya@igvita.com>, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, Frédéric Kayser <f.kayser@free.fr>, HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
I don't disagree-- that would be nice. :)

I just want to be sure that we're not tying server push to a requirement
that we generate a usable refinement (e.g. cache hinting)-- If we do that,
we again force people to inline, which wouldn't be anywhere as easy to
refine in the future.
-=R


On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com>wrote:

> honestly I do think push can, and should, be refined a bit for reasons of
> bandwidth (and cost) conservation in some envs. Even the notiion of
> Have-Subresources:: etag set (or hash of set, or whatever) probly gets a
> long way.
>
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> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Ilya Grigorik <ilya@igvita.com> wrote:
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>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Also, it'd be REALLY nice to think about about what this means for
>>> responsive design; e.g., if I'm a mobile, I don't need the desktop
>>> stylesheet, and maybe not some of those images too. So, how does that work
>>> in a push world?
>>
>>
>> I think these are mostly orthogonal. While its a good exercise to think
>> about this, I don't think this needs to be an explicit goal for HTTP 2.0.
>> The HTML5 spec specifically says that the resources should be downloaded,
>> even if the media-query breakpoint does not match (ex, print stylesheet,
>> etc). In other words, we need to first resolve these questions in HTML5
>> specs, before we worry about the transport.. otherwise cart before the
>> horse...
>>
>> And, all of that aside, we do have a solution: serve the appropriate HTML
>> to different clients. (just add a Vary: User-Agent.. oh wait - *ducks* :-))
>>
>> ig
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