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Re: Require UAs and intermediary caches to assume Vary: User-Agent

From: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:27:12 +0000
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
cc: Simon Pieters <simonp@opera.com>, ietf-http-wg@w3.org
Message-ID: <90836.1350545232@critter.freebsd.dk>
In message <20121018061129.GG7517@1wt.eu>, Willy Tarreau writes:
>On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 08:15:51AM +0000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

>> Fine with me, provided you _first_ reduce the number of distinct
>> U-A strings on the web to something reasonable, lets say no more than 25 ?
>One of my customers encodes them in logs to reduce log size, so basically
>each new UA string gets assigned a 16-bit ID which is reused everytime the
>same string is encountered. Last time we checked, we saw something like
>30k different strings in one day worth of logs ! Some browsers emit all
>the combinations of their plugins and versions, making the UA currently

Many of the, now illegal in EU, tracking schemes use U-A as a major
component in disambiguation factor, for exactly this reason.

>Another benefit of getting much less different UAs is that their
>identification string could significantly shrink then.

Personally I think the U-A is just plain wrong and should be dropped.

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