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From: Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot@laposte.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:55:57 +0200
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To: "Patrick McManus" <pmcmanus@mozilla.com>
Cc: "Mike Belshe" <mike@belshe.com>, "Willy Tarreau" <w@1wt.eu>, "Phillip Hallam-Baker" <hallam@gmail.com>, "Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@gmail.com>, grahame@healthintersections.com.au, "ietf-http-wg@w3.org" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
> From: Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com>
On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 23:54 -0700, Mike Belshe wrote:

> Show me the user that will stand up and say, "Yes, I would like my
> communications to be snoopable and changeable by 3rd parties without
> my knowledge."
[..]
> Sorry - that will be the last time I say that for a while...

> please keep saying it. That is the important point.

Show us the users that only go outside in trenchcoats and sunglasses for
fear of being observed going into a particular shop, reading a particular
book at the library, etc

Users *do* accept lack of absolute confidentiality in real life. Users
*do* advertise their tastes and orientations in case they were nor
pro-eminent enough (on social web sites, via clothes choices, going around
with bags with huge shop logos on them)

There is *no* real-life user demand for absolute confidentiality, either
on the internet or in physical life (except for a few marginals, commonly
deemed freaks by the majority of the population)

You are inventing requirements users didn't ask of you (and I'm sure
others would claim I'm on the freakish side myself)

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot
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