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Re: WG Review: Recharter of Hypertext Transfer Protocol Bis (httpbis)

From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 13:05:00 +1100
Cc: "Roy T. Fielding" <fielding@gbiv.com>, Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>, ietf-http-wg@w3.org, IETF-Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
Message-Id: <8B377788-1995-4F38-88A8-E33C2FBFD2E5@mnot.net>
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
Hi Stephen,

On 24/02/2012, at 11:54 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:

> On 02/24/2012 01:24 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Tim Bray wrote:
>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Roy T. Fielding<fielding@gbiv.com>  wrote:
>>>> How many times do we have to do this before we declare insanity?
>>>> I don't care how much risk it adds to the HTTP charter.  They are
>>>> all just meaningless deadlines anyway.  If we want HTTP to have
>>>> something other than Basic (1993) and Digest (1995) authentication,
>>>> then it had better be part of *this* charter so that the proposals
>>>> can address them.
>>> Well, Digest already isn't used by anyone :)
>> A popular misconception because it works unseen.  See tools.ietf.org
>>> Seriously, someone needs to propose some charter language or this
>>> discussion is a no-op.  -Tim
>> "Proposals for new HTTP authentication schemes are in scope."
> How would a plan like the following look to folks:
> - httpbis is chartered to include auth mechanism work as
>  per the above (or whatever text goes into the charter)
> - that'll generate a slew of proposals, some good, some
>  bad, some better-than-current and some too complex
> - plan is for httpbis to pick something (one or more if
>  they want, but one better-than-current one is the goal)
> - give all the above a short timeframe (this year, pick
>  which to work on at the same time as re-chartering for
>  the details of HTTP/2.0 maybe)
> - httpbis pick what they want, (zero or more) and go
>  do their stuff

Is the goal for HTTPbis "one or more" or "zero or more"? I see both above.

Again - I'm absolutely fine with soliciting proposals, but requiring output is a different thing.


Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/
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